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Hi All!
My 06′ TSX is starting to drive me crazy with the Rotors warping (Slight warp for now..steering shimmy’s only when brake is pushed 55mph+)…apparently common issue :blink: . My question is, what brand rotors and pads would you recommend to combat this issue?
Bit of history: Original Pads Replaced @ 75K. Stock original rotors turned. (They were severely warped)
Now it’s at 100K. The rotors are starting to vibrate. Feels like within 1,000 miles it will be very annoying.
I’ve been looking at Brembo Blanks vs Centric for rotors. For pads, I’ve been looking at Akebono/Hawk. Problem is there are SO many variations of those pads on tirerack, not sure which one is best. I don’t race or brake very hard….unless necessary out of traffic. Open to anything within the same price range as listed brands.
Any thoughts on Wearever/Wagner/Duralast for this vehicle? Put them on my Camry with success, but Rotors don’t seem to warp on the Camry as easy as this TSX and our 07′ Accord.
Slide Pins lubed with Silicon paste and pads touched with anti seize on pad contact edges every 10k-15k.
Thanks Everyone! banana:
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what is a TSX? is it a Honda?
my advice for you is too avoid cheep Chinese made rotors and go with a brand that is reputable, not all rotors are the same some are made with cheep iron and made too the minimum required thickness, if you REALLY want too prevent rotor warpage may i suggest looking into cryogenically treated rotors.
a brand that i like a lot is Raybestos but i don’t know if that’s the best brand for your vehicle, there are a few good brands out there and a few bad ones, just go with the higher quality options… depending on what brand your vehicle may be some others may be able too give you better advice.
I know I’ve heard Eric recommend Akebono for replacement brakes on Honda vehicles. For pads I would highly recommend PBR metal masters over Hawk. In my opinion for day to day driving they perform better than Hawk and I’ve stuck to them for years. Good product in my experience. I’ve never used Akebono pads but heard good things.
As for rotors an OEM or OEM replacement from a quality company is your best bet. There really isn’t much you can do to prevent warping as its caused by heat. Cheap ones may warp faster in fact. Mechanics all have opinions and they differ all the time but I tend to go with a OEM replacement rotor unless the car is being used for track, or the driver really likes to push his luck with speeds.
I think something that can’t be overlooked here is wheel nut torque. If they are overtorqued it can warp the rotors.
Additional information on brake problems like this can be found here.
http://www.ericthecarguy.com/faq/solving-brake-problems
Lastly, driving habits might have something to do with it. If you find yourself doing many panic stops then this can contribute to rotor warping. If that’s the case you might consider switching to cross drilled or performance rotors to handle the extra heat load.
I’ve only experienced vibration when braking a few times with my TSX. It usually happened in the first 5-10 miles of driving and then the problem disappeared.
I replaced the OEM parts with Akebono ProACT pads and Raybestos Advanced Technology rotors. They seem to perform about the same as the OEM brakes. The black finish on the rotors has withstood road salt from two winters.
Wheels are torqued to 80ft-lbs on the TSX. It seems that the TSX and the 07′ accord are the only two cars in the family that have rotor warp issues. To be fair, it took almost 25k after turning to shake. as far as stock rotors vs aftermarket, ultimately what do you think is best?
Warping rotors means the rotor is undersized for the weight of the vehicle. The maker should have invested a little more money in brakes (as in bigger). There’s no easy solution.
[quote=”barneyb” post=103845]Warping rotors means the rotor is undersized for the weight of the vehicle. The maker should have invested a little more money in brakes (as in bigger). There’s no easy solution.[/quote]
Agreed. *cough* Jeep
[quote=”barneyb” post=103845]Warping rotors means the rotor is undersized for the weight of the vehicle. The maker should have invested a little more money in brakes (as in bigger). There’s no easy solution.[/quote]
The 99-03 TL had the same issue. The brakes were too small (or cheap) and often warped. I finally installed a set of brembo cross drilled rotors to eliminate the problem on one customers car. That may be the same solution for the TSX in this case.
the reason Eric is suggesting cross drilled and slotted rotors is usually when rotors are cross drilled and slotted the rotors are hardened, nickle plated or in some cases Cryogenically treated, this process involves taking the rotor, heating it up until it is hot, and then dipping it or “quenching it.” in liquid nitrogen..
this process hardens the Iron the rotor is made of, making it more resistant too heat and warpage, BUT! make sure you get reputable cross drilled rotors because if you don’t its not safe, the rotors you get cross drilled should be cross drilled from there casting and not literally cross drilled, what happens is after time stress on the rotor causes cracks too form where the holes are.
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