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    Harold SmithHarold Smith
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      Can anyone tell me if there is a program better than All Data out there?

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    • #540354
      BillBill
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        All Data is very good but does not cover everything. Mitchell On Demand is good but again does not cover it all. Identifix Is also helpful.

        I find that you really need all three when you have a successful and busy Automotive business.

        #553656
        Harold SmithHarold Smith
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          I found out about Shop Key by Snap-on. It runs about $6,000 per year! Is it any better than All Data, Mitchell on Demand, or Identifix, and is it worth the price? I was told All Data runs about $2,500 per year; but I don’t know what the others run. :unsure:

          #553990
          Kevin CriswellKevin Criswell
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            [quote=”Sparky9614″ post=77406]I found out about Shop Key by Snap-on. It runs about $6,000 per year! Is it any better than All Data, Mitchell on Demand, or Identifix, and is it worth the price? I was told All Data runs about $2,500 per year; but I don’t know what the others run. :unsure:[/quote]

            From what I have heard from other shops, shop Key is a scaled down version of Mitchell on demand.

            For 6,000 I could have both Alldata and Mitchell on demand.

            #553996
            Harold SmithHarold Smith
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              As I understand it, Snap-on has went the way of most big companies. They are farming production of their products out to other companies to cut down on their overhead; then selling the product at an over priced rate, Typical capitalism. 🙁

              #558205
              WilliamWilliam
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                I use Mitchell ProDemand, mainly because it’s the only one I can access from home. It’s pretty good. I like it because you can calculate out cost for people– parts, labor, shop equipment, etc– if you’re running your own business on the side. I do some work, and I used to get hung up with what to charge people, now I can throw it all together and print it off to show I’m not just throwing numbers up.

                It also has great wiring diagrams if you do a lot of electrical work.

                #558209
                Kevin CriswellKevin Criswell
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                  [quote=”Shiryou” post=79718]
                  It also has great wiring diagrams if you do a lot of electrical work.[/quote]
                  I use Alldata, a bit cheaper than Michell On demand, but I did have Mitchell when I ran my repair shop in town and loved the wiring diagrams.

                  #558410
                  WilliamWilliam
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                    [quote=”Raistian77″ post=79722]I use Alldata, a bit cheaper than Michell On demand, but I did have Mitchell when I ran my repair shop in town and loved the wiring diagrams.[/quote]

                    I used AllData all the time at school. I assume it’s AllData Pro you use? If so, do they have colored wiring diagrams and better pictures? The basic AllData is horrible with those two aspects.

                    Not to mention some of the torque specs were wrong. I found out the hard way. :pinch:

                    #558418
                    Kevin CriswellKevin Criswell
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                      No, they are still pretty bad :angry:

                      #558422
                      Joshua ThompsonJoshua Thompson
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                        I perfer alldata pro…..mitchel on demand is alright, but I struggle navigating it as effeciently as somedata. But mitchell has stuff somedata doesnt and somedata has stuff mitchell doesnt.

                        #558497
                        Harold SmithHarold Smith
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                          AllData has basic black and white diagrams.

                          #558503
                          Kevin CriswellKevin Criswell
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                            [quote=”Sparky9614″ post=79904]AllData has basic black and white diagrams.[/quote]

                            Really depends Sparky, they publish what the manufacture sends on many 2000 and up models I have been seeing colored wiring diagrams now, found an example

                            https://www.dropbox.com/s/oiyqjgxrohc628b/toyota%20antitheft.pdf

                            #558522
                            WilliamWilliam
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                              I do really like AllData’s layout and vehicle selection. They don’t ask you for every little detail before you can look up stuff. ProDemand is kind of picky. I want to look up torque spec for caliper bracket bolts– they want to know the year, make, model, engine, submodel, drivetrain, VIN, number of doors, body style, license plate number, paint code, CD or cassette, interior fabric, last three owners, cigarette lighter, and if there are napkins in the center console.

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