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June 21, 2015 at 11:38 am #667138
hey guys.
i have a 99 dodge stratus 2.4 se.
the gauges,wipers,ac will blow but no cold air,no lights in the gauge cluster. will come on and off randomly.
i cannot think of what it could be.iv checked the fuses and relays.still the same problem.
any gut any idea.
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July 15, 2015 at 3:06 am #669570
[quote=”cap269″ post=142177]With the no bus message coming up, be sure to double check your fuses (ALL of them) as well as the wiring as previously discussed. The no bus message means the computer modules cannot ‘talk’ to each other.[/quote]
when i mess with the ignition switch, and slowly turn the key a no buss will come up bright not faint with a airbag light.
what dose this mean?could it be the switch?
July 17, 2015 at 5:31 pm #669780[quote=”RadioControlGuy33″ post=142334][quote=”cap269″ post=142177]With the no bus message coming up, be sure to double check your fuses (ALL of them) as well as the wiring as previously discussed. The no bus message means the computer modules cannot ‘talk’ to each other.[/quote]
when i mess with the ignition switch, and slowly turn the key a no buss will come up bright not faint with a airbag light.
what dose this mean?could it be the switch?[/quote]
i check pretty much everything only thing i havent mess with is the airbag box under the shifter.bye just looking at it its really dirty.but i dont want to mess with that thing and end up hooking the battery up and the airbags go off.
so i guess ill just park the dang thing.i dont know what to do.
July 18, 2015 at 10:45 pm #669885[quote=”RadioControlGuy33″ post=142544][quote=”RadioControlGuy33″ post=142334][quote=”cap269″ post=142177]With the no bus message coming up, be sure to double check your fuses (ALL of them) as well as the wiring as previously discussed. The no bus message means the computer modules cannot ‘talk’ to each other.[/quote]
when i mess with the ignition switch, and slowly turn the key a no buss will come up bright not faint with a airbag light.
what dose this mean?could it be the switch?[/quote]
i check pretty much everything only thing i havent mess with is the airbag box under the shifter.bye just looking at it its really dirty.but i dont want to mess with that thing and end up hooking the battery up and the airbags go off.
so i guess ill just park the dang thing.i dont know what to do.[/quote]
ok found somthing else, the tcm and fuel pump relays are getting hott.what dose this mean? wire or somthing broke or touching somthing?
July 19, 2015 at 5:45 am #669914Relays get hot when they are turned on all the time. It may be normal.
July 19, 2015 at 5:07 pm #669933[quote=”cap269″ post=142678]Relays get hot when they are turned on all the time. It may be normal.[/quote]
think i found the problem
it was screw up again last night.so i said what the hell and just took the cluster out and back in 2-3mins later and everything came back on.just now it happend again.and did the same thing.so this is telling me somthing is wrong with my cluster right?
next time it dose it.im going to just un connect it and reconnect it. and see what happens
July 19, 2015 at 5:16 pm #669936It is possible. I suggested a cluster problem a week ago. However, I advise this, since other systems were involved as well (such as door locks and windows). Unplug the cluster wiring, see if the other systems work properly. If so, plug the cluster back in, see if they fail again. If the other systems work properly only when the cluster is unplugged, then the cluster itself is likely the issue. If they don’t work regardless of whether the cluster is in or out, the cluster is likely not the issue.
July 19, 2015 at 8:14 pm #669949[quote=”cap269″ post=142700]It is possible. I suggested a cluster problem a week ago. However, I advise this, since other systems were involved as well (such as door locks and windows). Unplug the cluster wiring, see if the other systems work properly. If so, plug the cluster back in, see if they fail again. If the other systems work properly only when the cluster is unplugged, then the cluster itself is likely the issue. If they don’t work regardless of whether the cluster is in or out, the cluster is likely not the issue.[/quote]
just tryed it again and had no effect like before.going to try the cluster out and see what happens
well ever since it got hot today its been out. unhooking the cluster and reconnecting it dosent work.leaving it unhook same thing.
i have know clue whats going on
July 20, 2015 at 2:43 am #835164[quote=”RadioControlGuy33″ post=142713]well ever since it got hot today its been out. unhooking the cluster and reconnecting it dosent work.leaving it unhook same thing.[/quote]
Probably not a cluster problem then. Back to a wiring issue, or perhaps the body control module has gone out. I should probably pull a wiring diagram and take a look at it.July 20, 2015 at 3:04 am #835168Ok, I am starting to lean toward body control module (BCM) after looking at the wiring diagram. The only thing that doesn’t fit that diagnosis is why power windows don’t work, because they don’t go through the BCM and are not connected to the data bus; they seem to be a standalone circuit. The BCM is mounted to the back side of the fuse box under the dash. Inspect the wiring first to make sure there aren’t any loose or burnt wires. Dodge is famous at times for using undersized wiring. Make sure to disconnect the battery first before removing the module and wiring to prevent short circuits if wiring is damaged.
July 20, 2015 at 11:00 am #835209[quote=”cap269″ post=142735]Ok, I am starting to lean toward body control module (BCM) after looking at the wiring diagram. The only thing that doesn’t fit that diagnosis is why power windows don’t work, because they don’t go through the BCM and are not connected to the data bus; they seem to be a standalone circuit. The BCM is mounted to the back side of the fuse box under the dash. Inspect the wiring first to make sure there aren’t any loose or burnt wires. Dodge is famous at times for using undersized wiring. Make sure to disconnect the battery first before removing the module and wiring to prevent short circuits if wiring is damaged.[/quote]
im also leaing toward the bcm.i think the windows are the switches going bad.we have had problems with those for awhile.iv check all the wiring for the bcm and everything looks clean.but i cant see the 2 connectors in the back.the female connectors look good and clean.but cant see the male ones untill i pull it out..
other thing.it will not work when its hot outside.when its cool it will work.
July 21, 2015 at 7:11 am #835277With all of the issues you’re having, you might want to get a power probe kit with a circuit tracer (which comes in the deluxe kit for a few extra $$). Once you have a factory service manual, you can start tracing circuits one at a time. At lease it would allow you to start narrowing down where the source of these issues is coming from (considering BCMs arn’t cheap and I’m not sure if there is a clear/direct method to test them).
Good luck!
July 21, 2015 at 11:52 am #835286[quote=”tbonedude89″ post=142843]With all of the issues you’re having, you might want to get a power probe kit with a circuit tracer (which comes in the deluxe kit for a few extra $$). Once you have a factory service manual, you can start tracing circuits one at a time. At lease it would allow you to start narrowing down where the source of these issues is coming from (considering BCMs arn’t cheap and I’m not sure if there is a clear/direct method to test them).
Good luck![/quote]
i would love to have one of those but dont have the money for one of those.
iv found a bcm on ebay for 38bucks. dose it need to be reprogramed?
July 21, 2015 at 3:30 pm #835290Not for a 99. It should be plug-n-play as long as the part numbers are the same.
July 25, 2015 at 3:55 pm #835541[quote=”cap269″ post=142856]Not for a 99. It should be plug-n-play as long as the part numbers are the same.[/quote]
another thing i forgot to tell you.
it will stall when back up.that tell you anything? its been doing this for awhile
August 13, 2015 at 4:38 am #836910got it fixed,it was the bcm bad
thx for the help
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