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    __T__ __C__Robert Clark
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      hey guys.

      i have a 99 dodge stratus 2.4 se.

      the gauges,wipers,ac will blow but no cold air,no lights in the gauge cluster. will come on and off randomly.

      i cannot think of what it could be.iv checked the fuses and relays.still the same problem.

      any gut any idea.

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      __T__ __C__Robert Clark
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        [quote=”cap269″ post=142177]With the no bus message coming up, be sure to double check your fuses (ALL of them) as well as the wiring as previously discussed. The no bus message means the computer modules cannot ‘talk’ to each other.[/quote]

        when i mess with the ignition switch, and slowly turn the key a no buss will come up bright not faint with a airbag light.
        what dose this mean?

        could it be the switch?

        #669780
        __T__ __C__Robert Clark
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          [quote=”RadioControlGuy33″ post=142334][quote=”cap269″ post=142177]With the no bus message coming up, be sure to double check your fuses (ALL of them) as well as the wiring as previously discussed. The no bus message means the computer modules cannot ‘talk’ to each other.[/quote]

          when i mess with the ignition switch, and slowly turn the key a no buss will come up bright not faint with a airbag light.
          what dose this mean?

          could it be the switch?[/quote]

          i check pretty much everything only thing i havent mess with is the airbag box under the shifter.bye just looking at it its really dirty.but i dont want to mess with that thing and end up hooking the battery up and the airbags go off.

          so i guess ill just park the dang thing.i dont know what to do.

          #669885
          __T__ __C__Robert Clark
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            [quote=”RadioControlGuy33″ post=142544][quote=”RadioControlGuy33″ post=142334][quote=”cap269″ post=142177]With the no bus message coming up, be sure to double check your fuses (ALL of them) as well as the wiring as previously discussed. The no bus message means the computer modules cannot ‘talk’ to each other.[/quote]

            when i mess with the ignition switch, and slowly turn the key a no buss will come up bright not faint with a airbag light.
            what dose this mean?

            could it be the switch?[/quote]

            i check pretty much everything only thing i havent mess with is the airbag box under the shifter.bye just looking at it its really dirty.but i dont want to mess with that thing and end up hooking the battery up and the airbags go off.

            so i guess ill just park the dang thing.i dont know what to do.[/quote]

            ok found somthing else, the tcm and fuel pump relays are getting hott.what dose this mean? wire or somthing broke or touching somthing?

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            Andrew PhillipsAndrew Phillips
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              Relays get hot when they are turned on all the time. It may be normal.

              #669933
              __T__ __C__Robert Clark
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                [quote=”cap269″ post=142678]Relays get hot when they are turned on all the time. It may be normal.[/quote]

                think i found the problem

                it was screw up again last night.so i said what the hell and just took the cluster out and back in 2-3mins later and everything came back on.just now it happend again.and did the same thing.so this is telling me somthing is wrong with my cluster right?

                next time it dose it.im going to just un connect it and reconnect it. and see what happens

                #669936
                Andrew PhillipsAndrew Phillips
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                  It is possible. I suggested a cluster problem a week ago. However, I advise this, since other systems were involved as well (such as door locks and windows). Unplug the cluster wiring, see if the other systems work properly. If so, plug the cluster back in, see if they fail again. If the other systems work properly only when the cluster is unplugged, then the cluster itself is likely the issue. If they don’t work regardless of whether the cluster is in or out, the cluster is likely not the issue.

                  #669949
                  __T__ __C__Robert Clark
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                    [quote=”cap269″ post=142700]It is possible. I suggested a cluster problem a week ago. However, I advise this, since other systems were involved as well (such as door locks and windows). Unplug the cluster wiring, see if the other systems work properly. If so, plug the cluster back in, see if they fail again. If the other systems work properly only when the cluster is unplugged, then the cluster itself is likely the issue. If they don’t work regardless of whether the cluster is in or out, the cluster is likely not the issue.[/quote]

                    just tryed it again and had no effect like before.going to try the cluster out and see what happens

                    well ever since it got hot today its been out. unhooking the cluster and reconnecting it dosent work.leaving it unhook same thing.

                    i have know clue whats going on

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                    Andrew PhillipsAndrew Phillips
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                      [quote=”RadioControlGuy33″ post=142713]well ever since it got hot today its been out. unhooking the cluster and reconnecting it dosent work.leaving it unhook same thing.[/quote]
                      Probably not a cluster problem then. Back to a wiring issue, or perhaps the body control module has gone out. I should probably pull a wiring diagram and take a look at it.

                      #835168
                      Andrew PhillipsAndrew Phillips
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                        Ok, I am starting to lean toward body control module (BCM) after looking at the wiring diagram. The only thing that doesn’t fit that diagnosis is why power windows don’t work, because they don’t go through the BCM and are not connected to the data bus; they seem to be a standalone circuit. The BCM is mounted to the back side of the fuse box under the dash. Inspect the wiring first to make sure there aren’t any loose or burnt wires. Dodge is famous at times for using undersized wiring. Make sure to disconnect the battery first before removing the module and wiring to prevent short circuits if wiring is damaged.

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                        __T__ __C__Robert Clark
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                          [quote=”cap269″ post=142735]Ok, I am starting to lean toward body control module (BCM) after looking at the wiring diagram. The only thing that doesn’t fit that diagnosis is why power windows don’t work, because they don’t go through the BCM and are not connected to the data bus; they seem to be a standalone circuit. The BCM is mounted to the back side of the fuse box under the dash. Inspect the wiring first to make sure there aren’t any loose or burnt wires. Dodge is famous at times for using undersized wiring. Make sure to disconnect the battery first before removing the module and wiring to prevent short circuits if wiring is damaged.[/quote]

                          im also leaing toward the bcm.i think the windows are the switches going bad.we have had problems with those for awhile.iv check all the wiring for the bcm and everything looks clean.but i cant see the 2 connectors in the back.the female connectors look good and clean.but cant see the male ones untill i pull it out..

                          other thing.it will not work when its hot outside.when its cool it will work.

                          #835277
                          PeterPeter
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                            With all of the issues you’re having, you might want to get a power probe kit with a circuit tracer (which comes in the deluxe kit for a few extra $$). Once you have a factory service manual, you can start tracing circuits one at a time. At lease it would allow you to start narrowing down where the source of these issues is coming from (considering BCMs arn’t cheap and I’m not sure if there is a clear/direct method to test them).

                            Good luck!

                            #835286
                            __T__ __C__Robert Clark
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                              [quote=”tbonedude89″ post=142843]With all of the issues you’re having, you might want to get a power probe kit with a circuit tracer (which comes in the deluxe kit for a few extra $$). Once you have a factory service manual, you can start tracing circuits one at a time. At lease it would allow you to start narrowing down where the source of these issues is coming from (considering BCMs arn’t cheap and I’m not sure if there is a clear/direct method to test them).

                              Good luck![/quote]

                              i would love to have one of those but dont have the money for one of those.

                              iv found a bcm on ebay for 38bucks. dose it need to be reprogramed?

                              #835290
                              Andrew PhillipsAndrew Phillips
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                                Not for a 99. It should be plug-n-play as long as the part numbers are the same.

                                #835541
                                __T__ __C__Robert Clark
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                                  [quote=”cap269″ post=142856]Not for a 99. It should be plug-n-play as long as the part numbers are the same.[/quote]

                                  another thing i forgot to tell you.

                                  it will stall when back up.that tell you anything? its been doing this for awhile

                                  #836910
                                  __T__ __C__Robert Clark
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                                    got it fixed,it was the bcm bad

                                    thx for the help

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