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Hey Eric & Everyone!!! :woohoo:
I’ve been watching your channel for a couple of years now, awesome work, I am learning tons!!! Keep up the great work!!! π
I watched the starter videos again, I think this is what the sound Eric was talking about…
My 98 Civic still starts all the time, but it makes a loud noise when starter is cranking. The same noise when you turn the key when the engine isο»Ώ already running. Its been making this sound for a few weeks now. Its becoming fairly regular. Is my solenoid going? Should I replace the starter and solenoid at the same time?
Thank you very much,
Gene
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pull the starter and inspect the teeth for the starter.
see if any are broken.while its out.Have it checked at an
auto part store. If it does need replacement do the entire
starter.It does sound like an issue with the starter drive or the alignment. I’m with College man in removing the starter and inspecting the teeth. If you find damage there replace the starter. If you let it go too long you could damage the ring gear on the back of the engine and that would be much more difficult to replace. Keep us posted on your progress.
Hey Eric π
I replaced the starter(with a used one from a junk yard). I didn’t notice any damage on the ring gear, or the starter drive. It seems maybe the solenoid wasn’t retracting fast enough. Seems good now, will have to wait for -30*… I am in Canada π
Thanks for your help gents!!!
[quote=”KoenigsTiger” post=44806]Hey Eric π
I replaced the starter(with a used one from a junk yard). I didn’t notice any damage on the ring gear, or the starter drive. It seems maybe the solenoid wasn’t retracting fast enough. Seems good now, will have to wait for -30*… I am in Canada π
Thanks for your help gents!!![/quote]
Sounds very similar to the issue I was recently having with my starter motor.
In my case the solenoid , when temperature was very cold, could not push the pinion into the freewheel and the starter would run idle (and very fast!) without cranking the car.So the problem was similar to yours.
In my case I fixed it by cleaning and lubricating the motor and now it engages the freewheel ok and starts the car no problem.I suspect the missing lubrication (after all it’s a 11 year old car!) , the dirt, and the cold temperatures all contributed to making it almost impossible to the solenoid to be able to push the pinion in position, overcoming the spring tension.
In your case it seems the spring itself was not strong enough to pull back the pinion, probably for the same reasons of my starter (dried lubrication, dirt and cold temp).
Since it wasn’t visibly damaged, I would try to “recondition” your old starter motor to keep it as a spare for the future! π
Live long and prosper (and stay dirty!)
10nico
Hey 10nico,
Hmmm, sounds like a good idea! Now did you take apart the starter motor itself or just the solenoid?
Just curious which part to take apart. Never took apart a starter, did a alternator once.
Today it was -28*C (-18.4*F). The starter sounded fine. I noticed that the solenoid was made in Brazil…
Thanks a lot guys!!!
P.S. Tomorrow got to do buddies ’96 Integra brakes… Its a rust bucket, the floor was rotted away π
Hi!
I just disassembled it as a whole from the back of the engine, then took it apart and cleaned it.
Then lubricated it and then I did put it all together again.I put it on my vise and tried turning it on by jumper wires to a battery; first tried the solenoid circuit, and it clicked in position with no hesitation.
Then just to be sure, tried the motor circuit, and of course it spun freely.
And in the end tried both and it all worked ok, so I remounted it on the car, and it’s still working good!Here’s some photos I took when it was off the car.
Starter
Solenoid housing (rear view)
Solenoid housing front view (with its very stiff torx!! I hate torx!)
The dirty pinion
The electrical contacts
Disassembling…
Partially disassembled
Mr rotor! π
The planetary gear ( it reduces the number of rpm of the rotor and increases the torque)
The cover to the planetary
By the way, except the two very long bolts that held the rotor assembly together, and the three torx screws that do the same for the solenoid assembly, there were no other screws/bolts, it was just a interlocking thing, much like lego! π
Hope this helps!
Live long and prosper (and stay dirty!)
10nico
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