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97 grand cherokee 4.0

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  • #441820
    bronxbombersbronxbombers
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      97 grand cherokee stalls randomly doesn’t matter if i’m at a light? or doing 60+, then starts up 5 to 10 minutes later. starts right up in the morning. any idea’s. fuel pump , crankshaft position sensor etc…thanks

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    • #441821
      619DioFan619DioFan
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        Welcome to the forums !

        Do you have a cel lit up ? if so pull the code(s) and post them as this will help us diagnose the prob. even if the cel is not lit up you should still check for any codes. as for stalling I would do a fuel pressure test – key on engine off and with engine running. when it dies I would test for missing spark. keep us posted.

        #441822
        bronxbombersbronxbombers
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          yes i did have a cel on(it goes on and off) brought it to autozone with it lit up, and their were no codes.

          #441823
          Trcustoms719Trcustoms719
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            You might want to go to another place and have them check it for code(s) and pending code(s) if there still is not any then there might be a wiring problem to the CEL.
            Does it not start right after it stalls?
            If so check for fuel and spark when it does not start.

            #441833
            Trcustoms719Trcustoms719
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              Yeah, Found out whats going on with your exhaust.
              I’m betting on this being your problem.,

              #441824
              rmergenrmergen
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                a while back – my ’99 Jeep Cherokee stumbled when idling and stalled at random times…the check engine light was never on and no codes were stored. after doing all my own troubleshooting and leaving it with my mechanic for a few days, we couldn’t figure out what was causing the issue. it even stumped my mechanic. since he didn

                #441825
                college mancollege man
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                  intermittent problems are hard to find.as suggested start with fuel pressure.
                  need to find whats missing

                  #441826
                  EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                    I’m surprised there wasn’t a code stored and that’s somewhat concerning as anytime the light comes on it should store a code for at least 50 starts of the vehicle or someone clears it. You might want to take it somewhere else to see if they can pull the code as that is your most important clue to what is happening, without that information you’ll have to goto the basics and find out what’s missing during the stall condition, fuel or spark, and that can be tricky in your situation, I’ve actually driven around with a fuel pressure gauge taped to the windshield waiting for a stall looking to see a drop in fuel pressure, it may come to this if you don’t find a stored code to get you started.

                    #441827
                    bronxbombersbronxbombers
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                      I went to check my o2 sensor because of rmergen and my friggin cat and main muffler just before the tailpipe is blown up like a balloon would that cause it to stall. I forgot to mention it backfires it has power though. should i replace the whole exhaust?

                      #441828
                      3SheetsDiesel3SheetsDiesel
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                        If your exhaust system is swollen up like a balloon, there’s got to be a reason for it. Check to see if the exhaust is restricted downstream from the muffler. Also, check to see if maybe it’s got a misfire somewhere in the system, causing combustion heat and pressure to enter the exhaust stream rather than pushing down a piston. You’ll need to replace the exhaust, make no mistake about it, but I’d want to find out what caused it to swell up before I replaced the exhaust system.

                        #441829
                        MattMatt
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                          How many miles are on the vehicle? It’s possible the cat itself is clogged, especially if it starts right up in the morning, and gets rough as the engine heats the catalyst, causing it to expand.

                          #441830
                          bronxbombersbronxbombers
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                            the truck has 180,000 miles

                            #441831
                            MattMatt
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                              I had an old S-10 that did the same thing. I sawed the cat off and ran a straight pipe. Solved the problem. You may want to do some testing before you go that extreme though.

                              Here’s a video by ScannerDanner on back pressure testing.

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lafv2c4szZY

                              Good luck.

                              #441832
                              3SheetsDiesel3SheetsDiesel
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                                An easy test to see if the problem is a clogged cat is to remove the upstream O2 sensor and see if it runs better once everything gets warmed up. Granted, the local police may have some words for you about driving around with a hole in your exhaust, so you may want to keep the driving on public roads to a minimum. I’ve diagnosed a couple clogged cats over the years using this method, as it gives the exhaust some place to go rather than backing up inside the engine.

                                #441834
                                college mancollege man
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                                  If everything is blown up. remove the cat and see if its melted.
                                  before it gets replaced need to find the problem. otherwise
                                  you will have the same problem.

                                  #441835
                                  EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                                    Sounds like you had a pretty big misfire or backfire at some point which could have damaged the cat and restricted the exhaust. I might remove an O2 sensor before the ‘blow up’ and take it for a drive to see if it works better, if it does this could indicate a restricted exhaust. That’s not all however, in order to have a ‘backfire’ on that scale there was probably a great deal of fuel in the exhaust which could indicate a rich condition, you might want to check your fuel pressure as well as check for a leaking injector or fuel psi regulator problem.

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