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    Brian SanderlinBrian Sanderlin
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      Now, I’ve had this truck for the past few months, it’s been my replacement truck since my old 93′ 4900 ( Truck 800) blew it’s engine and tranny. Well all that’s been replaced and repaired but just the truck hasn’t had the body finished in order to be given back to me by the dairy. Anyway, this truck (Truck 35) has been leaking oil underneath and burning antifreeze. It would need these refilled about once a week or every two weeks. Now just this past Thursday, I was heading back to the dairy down an old backroad where it has about a 1 1/2 mile steep hill. I am usually able to get up the hill in 5th gear going about maybe 40 MPH. But that day, the truck had to be dropped down to 2nd and it was smoking like hell. As that was happening, the oil pressure went from 100 PSI to below 20 at full throttle to get up the hill. I trucked on to the dairy because it was less the 1/6 a mile away. The mechanic filled it up with oil the next morning. On that friday, I finished my route and had no issues whatsoever with the truck. It runs good honestly. But when I got on I-95, It was doing very good for about 5 minutes until I heard the RPM’s pickup above the full throttle and I started to hear this high pitched screeching noise. Then, the truck started to pick up speed, I went from going 65 MPH to 75 or 80 which is insane for a truck that size that rattles and shakes tremendously. Then the RPM’s just start to drop to idle but it wasn’t like it wasn’t getting fuel but it was just struggling and it seems like the truck was seizing up, The oil pressure dropped back down to below 20 PSI and I was smoking like hell again. I pulled off to the side and shut the truck off.and as I was putting out the emergency triangles, I noticed this long black oily line and splatters in the road. It was following to the bottom of the truck which was one big puddle. When the mechanic came over from the dairy, he put antifreeze in and checked the oil and said the oil was full. I was so confuzed because I know that’s my oil trail and the oil PSI was extremely low at high RPM’s and not recordable at idle. Then he had me start the truck, that was an extreme struggle. It just didn’t want to turnover and I had to put the clutch to the floor and full throttle for it to kick over. But when she got started she ran great at idle and would get up to the high RPM’s. I’m just very confuzed on what happened and just would like to know what the heck happened to this truck. I got under the truck to look for any holes in the crankcase for where all the oil could’ve possibly sprayed out of but I couldn’t find any, there was oil sprayed all over the tranny and back of the truck from me driving. I just want to know what happened, thanks! P.S The mechanic said it’s blown but I would like to know what could’ve failed? What could’ve lead up to this failure to be so sudden?

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    • #659807
      Lorrin BarthLorrin Barth
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        I worked for an electrical utility. My boss had a vehicle assigned him by the utility. I was using it one day when I looked down and saw the oil light on. I was only two blocks from our garage so I zipped in there and reported the problem to the chief mechanic.

        The utility wasn’t prone to buying new vehicles, if they ran then good enough. Well, the chief mechanic’s response to me telling him it had no oil pressure was, “Drive it some more.” The thing was junk, he was tired of dealing with it and wanted it gone.

        I’m thinking the same thing is going on here. Anyway, since you have a mechanic, leave it in his hands.

        #659837
        Brian SanderlinBrian Sanderlin
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          Well the dairy’s motto has always been, “If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. If it’s broke, fuck it.” Sorry for the language but that’s the motto. I guess the same’s to say about your old job. They rebuilt my old truck that I had issues with about a year ago, I’ve got 2 old threads about it if you want to search. It’s got a brand new DT466 and 5 or 8 speed tranny. They redid the interior and the box of the truck that the milk’s stored in. they’re currently rebuilding the back sliding door and repainting it. They have no trucks so they’re rushing to her done so they can give her back to me and they can have my current truck to it;s original route. This truck (35) that just blew up was the only back up truck they had and I’ve had it for 3-4 months now. So they’re forced to finish my truck.

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          Nick WarnerNick Warner
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            Something this old would be a mechanical injection. Could have a worn injector pump, sticking governor or even a leaky injector. I’m guessing Barney is onto something here. Its an old backup truck and the guys are tired of having to deal with it. If it completely dies the company will need to get a new (or at least newer) truck.

            Motor might not be toast at all, but it may as well be if they won’t fix it. Hope they get you back in your rig soon.

            #659870
            Brian SanderlinBrian Sanderlin
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              All the DT466’s were mechanically injection unitl 95-96 model. This model has mechanical injection. BTW, the dairy literally has truck 102, my truck (800), my old truck years back (62), truck 512.That’s 4 trucks just sitting there rusting. Such a waste of money. And the owner complain’s they have no backup/spare trucks. Well, your spare truck just went down on your most biggest route money wise. All are International 4900’s with DT466’s and the same Atlas Cold Plate body. Truck 62 was a 2002 model. All have been sitting there for almost a year and longer. The only truck they’ve been salvaging is 800 and that’s because it’s the biggest truck there for a cold plate body. plus, I requested them to rebuild it and bitched out the head mechanic for letting it turn to shit and I told him I better get the truck back. He was pissed at me for critisizing his mechanical abilities but I mean, they’ve got so many trucks that don’t work at all. Plus, they don’t get the trucks inspected. They just put the stickers on the trucks. Ain’t that illegal? They’re just extremely lazy. But if it’s just a leaky injector, why would I have an oil trail and a huge puddle of oil underneath the truck? When the mechanic checked the oil though he said it was over full.

              #659871
              Nick WarnerNick Warner
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                I was just throwing out a guess. I’m not there to work on the truck but sounds like problems at the shop are bigger than just this truck. Legally a fleet can do their own DOT inspections if they have the right papers filed and a person meeting FMVSS standards of knowledge is performing the inspections. I’ve worked at a fleet and done their own DOT’s myself and its legal. But if they are just throwing a sticker at it and hoping you don’t get stopped on a scale thats wrong.

                Now its a dirty trick, but you could get them in a pinch on it. Call the state patrol and talk to their CMV enforcement people. Do it anonymously if you want, but give them the truck numbers and where it is going to be at a given time and tell them the truck isn’t being properly inspected. Let the trooper pull you over and do a “random” DOT compliance check of your truck. Now being a POS that runs like crap isn’t illegal, but if they let things like steering, suspension or brakes get out of compliance and it is obvious it has been that way for some time the state may wish to look at other trucks and could really put a pinch on the company. Realize that if they determine these trucks to meet the Out of Service standards according to FMVSS OOS requiments that you may not have work for a bit. The trucks will have to be shown to the DOT to have all noted defects repaired to the standards and the truck cannot be driven until that work is done. Your call there. Obviously make sure your logbooks and such are all in good order so you can get out of it without a ticket.

                #659874
                Brian SanderlinBrian Sanderlin
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                  Well, I don’t go out of state or down state or accross state. My route is in Newark and the dairy is in Wilmington. Only 20-30 min away on backroads which I take. So I don’t go on the highway where DoT really is. Also, I honestly don’t fill out the logbooks. I’m just a daytime driver. I’ve been there for 22 years now and they just started the logbooks a few months ago, which I don’t do cause I don’t see a reason. Plus, with my old truck 800, the tranny would never get in gear, it would always jump out of gear in 3rd and 2nd. I was told this ,as severe as it was, could cause trouble with the DoT on the truck. Correct me if im wrong. Also, my dairy is in the threshold of the Delaware State Troops and DoT for how bad these trucks are. But i’ve never been stopped. We’ve got a fleet of about 70 trucks. Most are International 4900’s, one International 4700, and many International 4300-4400, and a few Freightliner M2’s. Also one Hino they just bought.

                  #659913
                  BillBill
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                    So ya finally put the old shit box out of it’s misery. I hope it was epic. It sounds like they gave you another one to do your magic on. Once you get your old truck back it should be just like a new Cadillac.

                    #659949
                    Brian SanderlinBrian Sanderlin
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                      Are you talking about the old truck that I had threads on with it’s tranny and turbo?

                      #659953
                      Brian SanderlinBrian Sanderlin
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                        That truck, it died almost 6 months ago. I put an update on the old thread, 1993 International 4900 Transmission Problems. I haven’t had that truck. I’ve been floating around into other trucks. But this truck , the 1995 4900, i’ve had for a few months and it was the only spare and now the engine blew. I put the old 93′ out by driving down I-95 with a blown turbo and turbo seals. Blew the engine to shreds. They put a BRAND NEW engine and tranny in her. Just waiting for repaint and back door to be fixed and that’s it.

                        Also, the truck they gave me after the 95 went out, just died yesturday too. The reefer unit literally exploded. Now I have a brand new Hino 2015 with Mercedes-Benz engine. I hate that it’s got a mercedes and it’s a foreign truck but it’s got train horns, not just air horns and she’s automatic!

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                        BillBill
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                          Yeah……I was talking bout the old truck on an older thread. I hope you get to keep the new truck after driving those old mechanical assholes. You deserve it.

                          #660292
                          Brian SanderlinBrian Sanderlin
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                            Man, it’s been a really f’d up two weeks. We can’t keep this truck. The height of it, the side door of the box sits about 5,9FT and my dad just blew his ACL and MCL just stepping down the side ladder. When and if he comes back, we won’t be able to have a truck this tall. We’ll need our old truck because the side door is about 3,9FT or 4FT off the ground. Me and my dad both run the route together. He’s done it for 23 years now and I’ve been with him for 4 so yeah. He blew it out at the second to last stop of the day yesturday. I carried him back in the driver seat and I did the last stop and when we got to the dairy. me and another guy had to carry him out the truck and away from the dock to the office. Well, that truck was fun while it lasted he said. Both of us will get off.

                            Workman’s Comp here we come! 🙂

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