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    JustinJustin
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      Hi guys,

      1995 Chrysler Concorde 3.3l here. It will not start easily and only stays running if you hold the accelerator pedal down. My brother thought it was the fuel pump so he replaced the fuel pump and the fuel filter. At first the car was not getting fuel pressure even with the new pump but after trying to start it a few times it finally primed and there is fuel spraying out of the schrider valve. However, it still is hard to start and won’t stay running.

      We are suspecting the MAP sensor now…There is no check engine code for it though. We are only suspecting it because if you turn the key to ON without starting the car it makes a bunch of clicking noises at the MAP. Is there anything else in that area of the engine that would do this? Do MAP’s have any parts that would go bad and click?

      Thanks guys!

      Justin

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    • #870412
      TyTy
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        Wait are you saying there is fuel spraying out of the schrader valve without it being pressed in?

        #870414
        JustinJustin
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          No, I am sorry I should have been more specific. Fuel comes out the schrader when you open it. It does not come out otherwise.

          #870415
          TyTy
          Participant

            Ok good you scared me there for a minute lol.

            I don’t recall there being anything else in that area that could make any noise.

            #870417
            TyTy
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              Not sure if your aware of this or not but did you know you can pull engine codes using the check engine light in the gauge cluster?

              Turn the key to the run position three times stopping on the third (on off on off on) and the light will start to flash a certain amount of times.

              Say the battery has been disconnected within 50 starts of the car this is code 12 using this method the check engine light will flash once then a slight pause then two more times.

              Each code has it own amount of flashes.

              If you would like a list of these codes i can get them for you.

              Comes in very handy on the road.

              12*

              Battery has been disconnected within last 50 key-on cycles
              55*

              Completion of fault code display on Check Engine Lamp
              54**

              No camshaft signal detected during cranking
              53**

              PCM Internal Fault detected
              47***

              Battery voltage sense below target charging during engine operation
              46***

              Battery voltage above target charging during engine operation
              42*

              Open or shorted condition detected in the auto shutdown relay circuit
              41***

              Open or shorted condition detected in the generator field control circuit
              34*

              Open or shorted condition in the Speed Control vacuum or vent solenoid circuits
              33*

              Open or shorted condtion detected in the A/C clutch relay circuit
              32**

              Open or shorted condtion detected in the EGR transucer solenoid circuit
              31**

              Open or shorted condtion detected in the duty cycle purge solenoid circuit
              27**

              Injector #3 or #2 output driver doesn’t respond properly to the control signal
              25**

              Open or shorted condtion detected in one or more of the idle air control motor circuits
              24**

              Throttle Position Sensor input above/below acceptable voltage limits
              22**

              Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor input above/below acceptable voltage limits
              17*

              Engine did not reach operating temperature within acceptable limits
              15**

              No vehicle speed sensor signal detected during road load conditions
              14**

              MAP sensor input above/below acceptable voltage limits
              13**

              No difference recognized between the engine MAP reading and the barometric (atmospheric) pressure reading from start-up
              11*

              No crank reference signal detected during engine cranking
              43**

              Peak primary circuit current not achieved within maximum dwell time (could be on ignition coil #1, #2 or #3)

              42*

              Open condition detected in the ASD Relay Output Circuit
              32**

              Required change in air/fuel ratio not detected during diagnostic test
              62*

              Unsuccessful attempt to update EMR mileage in the PCM EEPROM
              63**

              Unsuccessful attempt to write to an EEPROM location by the PCM
              23**

              Intake air temperature sensor input above/below acceptable limits
              16*

              Knock sensor either shorted to ground or 12 volts. Will not detect open circuit
              61

              Barometric pressure out of range
              27**

              Injector #4 output driver does not respond properly to the control signal
              53**

              PCM internal fault detected
              27**

              Injector #5 or #6 driver does not output does not respond properly to the control signal
              77*

              Malfunction detected with power feed to speed control servo solenoids
              34*

              Speed control switch input above/below acceptable voltage limits
              33

              A/C pressure sensor input above 4.9 volts/below .098 volts
              35**

              Open or shorted condition detected in the control circuit of the low/high speed radiator fan
              66

              No messages received from Transmission Control Module / No messages received from Body Control Module
              42*

              Open of shorted condition detected in the fuel pump relay control circuit
              43**

              Misfire detected (hook up scan tool reader to determine which cylinder)
              31*

              Insufficient or excessive vapor flow detected during evaporative emission system operation
              37**

              Incorrect input state deteceted for the Park/Neutral switch
              52**

              Rich air/fuel mixture has been indicated by an abnormally lean correction factor
              51**

              Lean air/fuel mixture has been indicated by an abnormally rich correction factor
              17**

              Engine does not reach 20°F within 5 minutes with a vehicle speed signal
              24**

              TPS signal does not correlate to MAP sensor
              14**

              5 volt output to MAP sensor open
              45**

              Automatic transmission input DTC has been set in the transmission controller
              25**

              Actual idle speed does not reach target idle speed
              71**

              5 volt output from regulator does not meet minimum requirement
              42*

              Open circuit between PCM and fuel gauge sending unit / Circuit shorted to voltage between PCM and fuel gauge sending unit / No movement of fuel level sender detected
              65**

              No release of brake switch seen after too many accelerations
              44**

              Battery temperature sensor input voltage above/below acceptable limits
              11**

              Intermittent loss of either camshaft or crankshaft position sensor
              72**

              Catalyst efficiency below required level
              21**

              O2 sensor
              11**

              CKP sensor target windows have too much variation
              21

              Oxygen Sensor reponse slower than minimum required

              #870469
              JustinJustin
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                Yes I am aware of that.

                It shows codes: 12, 33, 55. I don’t believe any of those indicate anything wrong that would cause this. I’ve read MAPs can go bad but not throw a code?

                #870488
                TyTy
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                  Yes a map can be faulty without throwing a code so you could try a new one.

                  Also maybe the throttle position sensor.

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