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Hi guys, I have 94 honda accord LX 2.2L Manual transmission. The issue I’m having is the car wont turn over. It stalled out on me when i was coming to stop at a traffic light and wouldnt turn back on. When i turned the key all I heard was a whining sound coming from the engine. When i got it towed back to my house I tried push starting it and that did not work. The whining sound I know is the started spinning. I replaced the starter with a brand new OEM one and it does the same thing. It is also getting spark and the crank pully is spinning because my alt and ps belts are spinning. It just sounds as if the top half of the engine is not running. I replaced the engine on this car about a year ago and when I did this I replaced the the fuel pump, the main relay for the fuel pump under the dash and the gas filter. Could this be an ignition switch issue?
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Hmmm…off the bat if things are spinning then it’s probably not an ignition issue. You mentioned that the top half of the engine is not running…got any more info?
Quoted From jacobnbr1:
Sounds like you broke a timing belt
I dont think its teh timing belt only because I;m getting spark, If i wasn’t getting spark then yes i would agree on the timing belt.
Quoted From peelout40:
Hmmm…off the bat if things are spinning then it’s probably not an ignition issue. You mentioned that the top half of the engine is not running…got any more info?
I was just saying it sounds like its not only because the only thing i here when i turn the key is the starter spinning or maybe even the rotor spining. what im trying to say is it doesnt sound like its firing. For instance if i had bad distributor i would still haer the normal engine crank, i dont hear that, all i hear like i said is hte starter and it may be possible that its the rotor i hear spining
Quoted From ehsteve84:
I dont think its teh timing belt only because I;m getting spark, If i wasn’t getting spark then yes i would agree on the timing belt.
The belt could still be intact but could have jumped time!
Do a compression test or a relative compression test to confirm
I would start by checking for any codes that way have been set. then I would check the timing belt as jacob mentioned you may have a belt that jumped some teeth throwing the timing way off. first mark the side of the distributor below #1 then with the cap off rotate the motor with a breaker bar or long ratchet to bring the timing marks around . with the t-marks lined up on the crank pulley the rotor should line up with #1 if not then you probably have a t-belt issue. keep us posted as to your findings.
Timing belt check is a good idea, pop the cover to see if everything is spinning, next make sure it is in time. Next check compression. It sounds mehcanical to me.
If that fails, next I would take a few minutes to take off the distributor to make sure the rotor is in good condition and secure, also look for any loose or damaged wires that go to any of the magnetic pick ups or ignition module. Also if the internal oil seal is puking oil really bad it can interfere with the rotor and other electronics and the car will randomly work or not work.
hi thanks guys for your responses. I just got done working on it for now. I checked for compression and im getting no compression in each cylander, I then took off the valve cover to see if my cam pully was spinning and it was. If the belt jumped a tooth wouldnt i still get compression? As for the distributer and cap and rotor they are new, I purchased them from the dealer back in may as I had a bad distributor like many of the hondas, also i am getting spark from each plug. Remember i said it doesnt sound like a normal crank when i turn the key to crank it, all i hear is the starter whine. The only other thing i can think of is it could be the second timing belt in this car. I purchased the video from here and EricTheCarGuy shows that there are 2 timing belts.
The second belt is for the balancer shaft. It has nothing to do with compression; however, it can cause a vibration if they are out of sync. Eric did a nice job on that video.
You need to make sure the timing belt is in time with the crankshaft. If it is, then you have other problems.
It almost sounds lke the belt jumped a whole bunch of teeth, so the valves start to open on the compression stroke – so no compression ever happens.
Follow the video, make sure your cam pulley marks are even with the head. Make sure your crank pulley or sprocket point to the TDC mark. I prefer the sprocket because sometimes that plastic marker on the cover gets messed up.
Replacing Honda fuel pumps is a bad move in my opinion, especially with a non OE unit. That said I know many have said to check the mechanical timing and I also recommend this but before you do you might want to try this. I have known those engines to get flooded from time to time causing a loss of compression. If you know you have spark and fuel then try starting the car with your foot to the floor on the gas to turn off the injectors and put it into ‘clear flood mode’. YOu may have to crank for a while to build compression back up but if you notice it starting to catch then this may be the case.
Good luck.
Thanks Erik I will try that, but I don’t think it is flooded since its been sitting for a little over a month. I did check the timing and it seems to be ok but.
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