93 Plymouth Gran Voyager LE

Quoted From college man:

see if this helps. pictures and everything.C8-)

http://www.fixya.com/cars/t3124815-tryi … drum_cover

Nice try but that is not what he is trying to do. He wants to remove the bearing hub from the brake drum, not remove the brake drum from the vehicle. This would have been good if it had shown the brake drum after it was removed from the vehicle (inside and outside) but it didn’t. The spindle goes through the bearing hub which is pressed to the drum with the 5 studs. I’ve got a 90 Caravan and I think I know how it works.

Quoted From EricTheCarGuy:

I actually did a video on this with rotors but on drums it’s the exact same thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccsbu2hT0MI

Great informative video Eric. Loved it. Only problem is the bearing hub with that front disc seemed to be made with the disc and not removable. With the rear drum on the Caravan the bearing hub is held on to the inside of the drum with the studs, which have to be knocked out with the drum off of the vehicle and the hub will be removed and can be remounted in the drum as I described in my previous posts.

Quoted From EricTheCarGuy:

I’m just wondering if we have the correct terminology here, when you say “hub” are you referring to the bearing race? If so the one in the rotor IS removable, it’s just a press fit, the best way to get them out is to knock them out with a brass drift punch. Most tapered roller bearings have this set up from what I’ve seen.

No. The bearings with race are in a separate hub and the hub is attached to the inside of the brake drum with the studs. I wish I had taken pics of this when I did mine. I will though next time i change the rear drums on my 1990 Caravan.
The first time I changed the rear drums I took the old ones and the new ones into a parts store and they transferred the hub to the new drums.
The second time I took the old ones to a Tuffy muffler shop and the guy showed me how to do it myself.

Quoted From Ace:

You are correct this is what im referring to and my vehicle is a front wheel drive 3.3 engine the wheel im working on are the rear brakes (not) front these are disc and easy to do. do you have videos of the rear brake removal and installation.

No, I do not have video or pics of the fix but if you read through all my replies to this thread you should be able to do the hub transfer from the old drum to the new one. If you have a problem and need the question answered quickly you can text or call the number in my signature and I can call you and it won’t cost you anything. There really is enough info if you read all MY replies to your thread to get the job done though.

Quoted From college man:

It does not show how to transfer the bearing hub from the old drum to the new drum. If I’m not mistaken Ace has already removed the drum from the vehicle and wants to know how to transfer the bearing hub from the old drum to the new drum. He can’t put the new drum on because it has no bearing hub until a transfer is made of it from the old drum to the new drum. This link does not explain how to do that, at least I didn’t see it explained there.

Quoted From Ace:

Well Johnbkobb i started my project on saturday April 28th and i used blocks of wood to set the drums on and used wooden blocks to hit the hub, but nothing i beat the hub like it owed me money but it did not moved at all. So i looked thru the yellow pages, and found that Federate Auto Parts Store will press out the old hub for me for $20.00 so i will go there this friday to get this done. MY hat off to all you mechanics now truly see why some thigs are priced high. Its because of all the trouble you may have go through.T) But now i know for future reference what needs to be done. Im buying a table vise S:)

Did you hit the hub or did you hit each of the studs (with the lug nut attached to each at the end) so you wouldn’t destroy the stud threads? You need to hit the lug nuts (not the hub) at the end of the studs with a hammer. I use a short handle 5# sledge hammer because it has a bigger head and some weight behind it to drive the studs out. I hope you weren’t beating on the hub itself. It’s the studs that hold the hub in to the drum and the hub should be easily removed once the studs are loose from the drum. Wish you would have texted me your number so I could have called you and talked you through this fix. It’s easier to talk and explain things like this.