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    AceAce
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      Hi i have a 93 Ply Gran Voyager LE and i now need to replace the brakes and the drums, the problem for me is not

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      dreamer2355dreamer2355
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        Welcome to the forums!

        It sounds like the drums are rusted onto the hubs.

        Here are a few video’s from Eric that will help –

        Rear Drum service

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yYGtK96 … qtOUeqg%3D

        Removing drums the easy way –

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po-WXqIK … h5ma49U%3D

        #440837
        AceAce
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          Photo 1

          Photo 2

          hi thanks for a fast reply but those videos didnt answer my question, I hope the photos may help abit better. Photo 1 is how my drums looks, Please view the lug post, NOW look and photo 2 this is a picture of my new drums without the lug post, now When the old drums are removed the lug nut threaded posts are still attached to the old drums while it is now in my hands and off the vehicle, how do i remove the lug posts and place them into the new drums.?

          #440838
          AceAce
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            in other words when the old drums are removed and im holding it in my hands, it looks like the lug posts are made as one piece onto the drums

            #440839
            dreamer2355dreamer2355
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              Is this FWD or AWD?

              Did you back off the shoes before removing the spindle nut?

              The only way the whole hub would come out as a unit (drum, backing plate, shoes, hardware) is if you removed the 4 screws on the backing plate.

              #440840
              Heath KnoxHeath Knox
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                I beleive the hub has to be beat off with a hammer. But I really think they should come the hubs on new drums already

                #440841
                chugheschughes
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                  Put the hub back on the axle and tighten the nut up the drum will pull off of that might be rusted on pretty good so give it a couple taps with a hammer on the outside

                  Heres a video that should help you…

                  http://www.ehow.com/video_2327529_remov … -drum.html

                  #440842
                  John B KobberstadJohn B Kobberstad
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                    Quoted From Ace:

                    Hi i have a 93 Ply Gran Voyager LE and i now need to replace the brakes and the drums, the problem for me is not replacing the brakes, BUT its the drums, the lug nuts threaded posts are attached to the drums how do i remove the lug nut threaded post and place them in the new drums. I never had to replace the drums themselves before, but these drums need replacing badly.

                    Place the drum, that you have removed, on a couple boards with the studs facing up and with the outside edges of the drum on the boards so there is room for the hub to go down when the studs are driven out with a hammer (put lug nuts on the studs flush with the end of the stud so you do not destroy the threads of the stud). To install the studs and hub into the new drum just put a couple of washers or something like that on the studs (on the outside of the new brake drum between the outside of the drum and the lug nut) after you have set it up with the new drum and put the lug nuts on, equally tighten until the studs and hub are drawn into the holes of the new drum. When you tighten the lug nuts to draw the studs into the holes, start by tightening each one a little bit and tighten in the same pattern as you would tighten the wheel when you mount it on the studs. Hope this solves the problem

                    #440843
                    John B KobberstadJohn B Kobberstad
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                      Quoted From Heath Knox:

                      I beleive the hub has to be beat off with a hammer. But I really think they should come the hubs on new drums already

                      Yes, the hub needs to be beaten off with a hammer. He needs to place the drum, that he has removed, on a couple boards with the studs facing up and with the outside edges of the drum so there is room for the hub to go down when the studs are driven out with a hammer.

                      #440844
                      Trcustoms719Trcustoms719
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                        Are you sure you got the right replacement drum?

                        #440845
                        John B KobberstadJohn B Kobberstad
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                          Quoted From chughes:

                          Put the hub back on the axle and tighten the nut up the drum will pull off of that might be rusted on pretty good so give it a couple taps with a hammer on the outside

                          Heres a video that should help you…

                          http://www.ehow.com/video_2327529_remov … -drum.html

                          “chughes” did you look at the pics that were posted of the old drum on the spindle and the new drum?
                          The old drum is attached to the spindle with a nut and there is a bearing hub attached to the inside of the drum with the stud bolts holding to the drum. Did you watch the video you posted and pay attention to it? I think not. That video shows a rear drum configuration that does not have the spindle/hub/nut configuration as in his 93 Caravan. It is useless for him to watch this he does not have that system for his rear drums.

                          He wants to find out how to remove the studs and hub from the old drum and install them in the new drum. Please correct me if I am wrong

                          #440846
                          John B KobberstadJohn B Kobberstad
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                            Quoted From Trcustoms719:

                            Are you sure you got the right replacement drum?

                            That’s the way the replacement drum comes. The hub has to be removed from the old brake drum by knocking the studs out then transferring the hub to the new brake drum by drawing the studs and hub back in with the lug nuts and some spacers tightening them a little bit at a time all the way around until they are all seated

                            #440847
                            John B KobberstadJohn B Kobberstad
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                              Quoted From dreamer2355:

                              Welcome to the forums!

                              It sounds like the drums are rusted onto the hubs.

                              Here are a few video’s from Eric that will help –

                              Rear Drum service

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yYGtK96 … qtOUeqg%3D

                              Removing drums the easy way –

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po-WXqIK … h5ma49U%3D

                              The studs hold the hub to the drum. You can use the old ones but I would go with new studs just to be safe

                              #440848
                              John B KobberstadJohn B Kobberstad
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                                Quoted From dreamer2355:

                                Welcome to the forums!

                                It sounds like the drums are rusted onto the hubs.

                                Here are a few video’s from Eric that will help –

                                Rear Drum service

                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yYGtK96 … qtOUeqg%3D

                                Removing drums the easy way –

                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po-WXqIK … h5ma49U%3D

                                Hubs are attached to the drum by the studs It’s not rusted together If the studs are driven out the hub will come out

                                #440849
                                John B KobberstadJohn B Kobberstad
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                                  Quoted From dreamer2355:

                                  Is this FWD or AWD?

                                  Did you back off the shoes before removing the spindle nut?

                                  The only way the whole hub would come out as a unit (drum, backing plate, shoes, hardware) is if you removed the 4 screws on the backing plate.

                                  It’s a bearing hub in the drum there is no backing plate, it’s not the spindle the hub comes off with the drum

                                  #440851
                                  John B KobberstadJohn B Kobberstad
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                                    Quoted From college man:

                                    see if this helps. pictures and everything.C8-)

                                    http://www.fixya.com/cars/t3124815-tryi … drum_cover

                                    Nice try but that is not what he is trying to do. He wants to remove the bearing hub from the brake drum, not remove the brake drum from the vehicle. This would have been good if it had shown the brake drum after it was removed from the vehicle (inside and outside) but it didn’t. The spindle goes through the bearing hub which is pressed to the drum with the 5 studs. I’ve got a 90 Caravan and I think I know how it works.

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