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January 10, 2014 at 3:57 pm #567700
I hope there isn’t the same controversy with this one that there was with the headlight installation. If there is, so be it. I love these lights. They work great and really help visibility in bad weather. I think they also look pretty cool. What are your thoughts?
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January 10, 2014 at 5:46 pm #567709
Absolutely love MotorFiend and their HID kits.
Users should keep the color/temp around the 4300K mark for Headlights and lower for Driving/Fog lamps. No one knows any different.
Eric you can always hook up a separate relay for the fog light system to arm the system with the ignition in the on position.
I do that with my aftermarket heated windshield wiper/washer system.
January 11, 2014 at 1:46 am #567755I posted on the video but figured I’d post a photo showing what I meant here.
I’ve wired in about 15 HID kits for H1 fogs, and some H7 headlights this way without issues. (this is how most two pin bulbs are wired up) Unless the car has a canbus system relays can be used to stop flickering, but you don’t need a harness that connects the two bulbs together you can find single relays that attach in between the ballast and bulb on ebay [ebay] 200897788422[/ebay].
Just connect the 3 HID bulb connectors straight to the 3 ballast connectors, the two pins that are left on the HID bulb go into the factory bulb connector (H1,H7 are both two wired connectors one live one ground) which in your case Eric goes into the back of the fog lights.
I realise you’ve probably gone to the trouble of soldering everything now so this info came a bit late but hopefully its helpful to others.
January 11, 2014 at 2:28 am #567763[quote=”Timk1764″ post=84712]I posted on the video but figured I’d post a photo showing what I meant here.
I’ve wired in about 15 HID kits for H1 fogs, and some H7 headlights this way without issues. (this is how most two pin bulbs are wired up) Unless the car has a canbus system relays can be used to stop flickering, but you don’t need a harness that connects the two bulbs together you can find single relays that attach in between the ballast and bulb on ebay [ebay] 200897788422[/ebay].
Just connect the 3 HID bulb connectors straight to the 3 ballast connectors, the two pins that are left on the HID bulb go into the factory bulb connector (H1,H7 are both two wired connectors one live one ground) which in your case Eric goes into the back of the fog lights.
I realise you’ve probably gone to the trouble of soldering everything now so this info came a bit late but hopefully its helpful to others.[/quote]
Yea, I cover that in the second half of the video. Thanks for your input.
January 11, 2014 at 2:29 am #567765[quote=”Rollingball” post=84682]Absolutely love MotorFiend and their HID kits.
Users should keep the color/temp around the 4300K mark for Headlights and lower for Driving/Fog lamps. No one knows any different.
Eric you can always hook up a separate relay for the fog light system to arm the system with the ignition in the on position.
I do that with my aftermarket heated windshield wiper/washer system.[/quote]
I get it sorted out in the second half of the video. Thanks for your input.
January 11, 2014 at 5:21 am #567842Hello Eric the Car Guy! I’m glad you decided to keep the HID bulbs. People are blinded every night (and day) by people who don’t properly aim the headlights or use a reflector housing that reflects all of the light out. They become too quick to judge others who follow those guidelines you explained in that video to the point that they don’t pay attention to the details of the video. Then to go straight to the comments section and start ranting “Oh my gosh this guy is a jerk to all drivers and should have his vehicle impounded” or “this guy is teaching others to be jerks on the road”. People should stop biting the hand that feeds and be grateful for the videos. I myself have HID bulbs in projector headlight housings and are the best. Would it be possible to create a video explaining the difference between reflector and projector headlight housings?
January 11, 2014 at 2:01 pm #567864Hey Eric, love the videos! I always get excited when I see such videos, because not only are they long, but I’m very interested in wiring as well!
With the help of a simple diagram I found online, I wired in fog lights on my own car. They never came with fog lights, so I did all the wiring myself without harnesses. To keep them from draining the battery, my low amp circuit from the switch was powered by the cigarette lighter power. So when I switch my key to accessory, the fog lights turn on, and turn off without a key. They don’t go off when high beams are used unfortunately, but I wasn’t even aware that was a law. I use them as “daytime running lights” for visibility.
I also passed the power cable through an existing grommet, makes things easier. But I mounted a custom relay on my strut tower in the engine bay. In hindsight, mounting it in the interior might have been a slightly better idea, but no big deal. Maybe someday I’ll redo it, but I won’t bother yet.
I’m not writing this as advice, just retelling my own experiences 🙂
I can’t wait to throw an HID kit into my fog lights. Surprisingly, they’re projector style so that makes the light output even better.
January 15, 2014 at 10:47 pm #568865Hi Eric,
Great job on the install.
It certainly does give the Element a whole new presence as it sits there.
I do have one reservation though.
Those sticky pads that were provided could have done with a bit help from a zip tie.I have some HID headlights on my vehicle and they came with some sizeable ballasts.
They too came with some sticky pads and even though I cleaned the surface of the body where they were going to be attached, they still failed after a few days.The problem is heat.
The ballasts do get quite warm to the touch and as such, the adhesive warms up until it becomes so pliable that it can’t support the weight.
Hopefully you already figured this out and came up with a solution.Anyway, its a great video to kick off 2014 with (repair video that is) and I look forward to many more.
January 16, 2014 at 1:10 am #568889[quote=”JSunYear” post=84759]Hello Eric the Car Guy! I’m glad you decided to keep the HID bulbs. People are blinded every night (and day) by people who don’t properly aim the headlights or use a reflector housing that reflects all of the light out. They become too quick to judge others who follow those guidelines you explained in that video to the point that they don’t pay attention to the details of the video. Then to go straight to the comments section and start ranting “Oh my gosh this guy is a jerk to all drivers and should have his vehicle impounded” or “this guy is teaching others to be jerks on the road”. People should stop biting the hand that feeds and be grateful for the videos. I myself have HID bulbs in projector headlight housings and are the best. Would it be possible to create a video explaining the difference between reflector and projector headlight housings?[/quote]
Thanks for your support. As for the Projector vs Reflector housing, I’ll think on it. I don’t have anything at the moment with projectors in it. It would be nice to have a practical to work into the video. Thanks for the suggestion.
January 16, 2014 at 1:13 am #568890[quote=”Haloruler64″ post=84770]Hey Eric, love the videos! I always get excited when I see such videos, because not only are they long, but I’m very interested in wiring as well!
With the help of a simple diagram I found online, I wired in fog lights on my own car. They never came with fog lights, so I did all the wiring myself without harnesses. To keep them from draining the battery, my low amp circuit from the switch was powered by the cigarette lighter power. So when I switch my key to accessory, the fog lights turn on, and turn off without a key. They don’t go off when high beams are used unfortunately, but I wasn’t even aware that was a law. I use them as “daytime running lights” for visibility.
I also passed the power cable through an existing grommet, makes things easier. But I mounted a custom relay on my strut tower in the engine bay. In hindsight, mounting it in the interior might have been a slightly better idea, but no big deal. Maybe someday I’ll redo it, but I won’t bother yet.
I’m not writing this as advice, just retelling my own experiences 🙂
I can’t wait to throw an HID kit into my fog lights. Surprisingly, they’re projector style so that makes the light output even better.[/quote]
I’m glad to hear that you ran a relay, if not it can burn up the circuit. Thanks for your input, and post a pic of the fogs when you get the HID’s in them.
January 16, 2014 at 1:15 am #568892[quote=”chomerly” post=85312]Hi Eric,
Great job on the install.
It certainly does give the Element a whole new presence as it sits there.
I do have one reservation though.
Those sticky pads that were provided could have done with a bit help from a zip tie.I have some HID headlights on my vehicle and they came with some sizeable ballasts.
They too came with some sticky pads and even though I cleaned the surface of the body where they were going to be attached, they still failed after a few days.The problem is heat.
The ballasts do get quite warm to the touch and as such, the adhesive warms up until it becomes so pliable that it can’t support the weight.
Hopefully you already figured this out and came up with a solution.Anyway, its a great video to kick off 2014 with (repair video that is) and I look forward to many more.[/quote]
I did end up just using the adhesive. So far they seem to be intact. I actually shot that video about 4 months ago and so far it seems to be holding up. I’ll keep an eye on them though.
Thanks for the heads up.
January 17, 2014 at 4:01 pm #569299Here’s part 2.
January 17, 2014 at 11:27 pm #569345Eric first off i want to say you are the best!! I finally joined the site after watching your videos for over the past year or so and it is great!! As being a beginner tech and graduating automotive school a couple of years ago i always watch your videos to brush up on some things. you’ve probably seen my comments on YouTube under (joeyz2k). Anyway Eric keep up the good work its great to see a tech who actually cares about fixing things the right way and shows the importance of diagnosing properly. I literally look forwards to Fridays for your new video. Btw your hid instal videos were great and they look amazing no matter what people say in your comments. P.S. stay dirty!!
January 18, 2014 at 12:43 am #569350[quote=”BKZOWN” post=85530]Eric first off i want to say you are the best!! I finally joined the site after watching your videos for over the past year or so and it is great!! As being a beginner tech and graduating automotive school a couple of years ago i always watch your videos to brush up on some things. you’ve probably seen my comments on YouTube under (joeyz2k). Anyway Eric keep up the good work its great to see a tech who actually cares about fixing things the right way and shows the importance of diagnosing properly. I literally look forwards to Fridays for your new video. Btw your hid instal videos were great and they look amazing no matter what people say in your comments. P.S. stay dirty!![/quote]
Thanks man, I really appreciate your comment! Good luck with your career. Stop back anytime.
January 18, 2014 at 1:12 am #569365Just curious what kind of laws do you have over in the states with fog lights? or your state seeing they might all be different
Here in australia we can only ever use fog lights when vision is impaired by such things as fog/smoke and thats it otherwise you get a fine
January 18, 2014 at 2:30 am #569425WOW. You earned your money on this one. You really
did some custom work. Enjoy the fogs you earned it. 🙂 -
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