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    college mancollege man
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      try doing a power balance test. try spark and injectors._x000D_
      Has any work been done recently? with the cel light_x000D_
      blinking. the computer has detected only one trip. it takes_x000D_
      two trips

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    • #459337
      dreamer2355dreamer2355
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        Those engines are know for premature failure due to piston ring issues. If you are suffering from excessive oil consumption, you will need to rebuild the engine._x000D_
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        They also have a recall for PCM reprogramming to reduce fuel mixture as well as issues wit

        #459338
        EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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          Excellent posts above.

          #459341
          JDang444JDang444
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            Quoted From college man: _x000D_
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            pull the cop for each_x000D_
            cylinder and inspect the bottom for burning. where the old plugs_x000D_
            discolored? did you use NGK plugs?

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            I’m using cheap NGK V-Power plugs to check just to see if it was the old plug

            #459339
            JDang444JDang444
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              Thanks for the responses everyone._x000D_
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              I’ve done all the recalls for sensors and fuel pump assembly on the car. I’m aware of the many design flaws such as the butterfly screws (did the loc-tite) and disintegrating pre-cats in the header (catless header ins

              #459340
              college mancollege man
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                it would be better for the power balance test to be done_x000D_
                while its happening for sure. but try the test any way. maybe_x000D_
                we will get lucky. with the car not running. pull the cop for each_x000D_
                cylinder and inspect the bottom for burning. where the old plugs_x000D_

                #459342
                EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                  +1 on doing the power balance while it’s acting up as this will help narrow it down.

                  #459343
                  JDang444JDang444
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                    UPDATE:_x000D_
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                    The car finally threw a code. P0304._x000D_
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                    Now that I know it’s cylinder #4 and knowing the following information:_x000D_
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                    -spark plugs have less than 5000 miles on them_x000D_
                    -short term fuel trim holds at -11 or more during idle. This is consistent and ho

                    #459344
                    JDang444JDang444
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                      BTW, I do plan to swap the coils and see if the code goes to the other cylinder. But the misfire happens so randomly and sometime it doesn’t happen for weeks. Can I do a resistance check on the coils too and compare it to the others?

                      #459345
                      college mancollege man
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                        [quote]Quoted From JDang444: _x000D_
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                        BTW, I do plan to swap the coils and see if the code goes to the other cylinder. But the misfire happens so randomly and sometime it doesn’t happen for weeks. Can I do a resistance check on the coils too and compare

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                        EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                          If an injector is leaking then you would see negative STFT numbers as the computer would be subtracting fuel.

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                          dreamer2355dreamer2355
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                            What are the LTFT at?_x000D_
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                            The job of the LTFT is to keep the STFT as close to 0 as possible._x000D_
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                            #459348
                            JDang444JDang444
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                              Quoted From dreamer2355: _x000D_
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                              What are the LTFT at?_x000D_
                              _x000D_
                              The job of the LTFT is to keep the STFT as close to 0 as possible._x000D_
                              _x000D_

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                              Last time I monitored it was at -4.

                              #459349
                              dreamer2355dreamer2355
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                                STFT numbers will always fluctuate up and down. As long are there within +/-10 of each other, its fine._x000D_
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                                But for the LTFT numbers, it is taking away some fuel but it seems like its within specs._x000D_
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                                If you want to chase injectors you could do a injector

                                #499186
                                JDang444JDang444
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                                  After seeing the code for cylinder 4 misfire, I swapped ignition coils with #1.

                                  Months later, it’s misfireing more frequently and I happened to catch the right moment to do the power balance test. It was missing randomly and inconsistently. #1 now has the questionable ignition coil.

                                  Disconnected #1 and the miss was rythmic. Put #1 back on and disconnected the others. With any others disconnected, the miss was more frequent. I would hear a double miss from time to time. This pointed to #1 missing plus the disconnected cylinder also missing.

                                  I bought a new ignition coil at O’Reily’s and the problem’s now fixed.

                                  Thanks to Eric and others for their advice on the power balance test. Luckily I didn’t listen to the auto shops advice to replace the headgasket. I just didn’t see any symptoms like missing coolant or oil or bad compression test numbers to point to a bad headgasket.

                                  Should I replace all the ignition coils? Or should I just wait for them to go bad individually. I figure if one went bad, the rest would soon follow.

                                  #500762
                                  JDang444JDang444
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                                    After seeing the code for cylinder 4 misfire, I swapped ignition coils with #1.

                                    Months later, it’s misfireing more frequently and I happened to catch the right moment to do the power balance test. It was missing randomly and inconsistently. #1 now has the questionable ignition coil.

                                    Disconnected #1 and the miss was rythmic. Put #1 back on and disconnected the others. With any others disconnected, the miss was more frequent. I would hear a double miss from time to time. This pointed to #1 missing plus the disconnected cylinder also missing.

                                    I bought a new ignition coil at O’Reily’s and the problem’s now fixed.

                                    Thanks to Eric and others for their advice on the power balance test. Luckily I didn’t listen to the auto shops advice to replace the headgasket. I just didn’t see any symptoms like missing coolant or oil or bad compression test numbers to point to a bad headgasket.

                                    Should I replace all the ignition coils? Or should I just wait for them to go bad individually. I figure if one went bad, the rest would soon follow.

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