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Hi,
So the car had a P1456 code, and I had a shop replace the gas tank. The thread for this issue is here.
They replaced the old with a new tank and filler neck. Now the code is gone, but a new problem has risen. When I fill the tank, the handle clicks and gas pours out of the filler neck. I’ve tried several different gas stations and going slow or fast when filling. I know jeep had this problem due to their failing check valve in the filler neck, but honda doesn’t have this setup I didn’t think. (Jeep issue – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMk5VXz88PE).
My issue is identical to the Jeep issue. So my question is, what method does a 2000 Honda accord use to prevent gas from squirting out of the filler neck when full?
I’m leaning towards the shop using a filler neck that does not have a vent tube as I don’t think the filler neck has a float valve, just a flap for rollovers. (jeep float valve to prevent gas from squirting out when gas handle clicks – http://s3.amazonaws.com/2cp-images/question_images/15300/large.jpg)
I have an appointment tomorrow so any help is appreciated. Its something I believe they are going to try to weasel they’re way out of.
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I’m pretty sure Eric would know the answer to this. It’s kind of a technical question. Hope you are reading this Eric :whistle:
I’m confused, is it an Accord or a Jeep thats having the issue?
That said, the roll over valve is actually in the tank and if it’s not in there or positioned correctly, it can cause issues when you fill up. BTW you really can’t install a filler neck without a vent tube, you’d never be able to fill it. I’m suspecting that your old vent tube was corroded and had holes, hence the P1456. They may have forgotten to install something when they did the tank, or the tank did not come with the required parts. Either way, I would suggest taking it back to where you had the tank installed to have them deal with the problem. I’m guessing that’s what you’re doing with the appointment you mentioned.
Keep us posted.
[quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=88884]I’m confused, is it an Accord or a Jeep thats having the issue?
That said, the roll over valve is actually in the tank and if it’s not in there or positioned correctly, it can cause issues when you fill up. BTW you really can’t install a filler neck without a vent tube, you’d never be able to fill it. I’m suspecting that your old vent tube was corroded and had holes, hence the P1456. They may have forgotten to install something when they did the tank, or the tank did not come with the required parts. Either way, I would suggest taking it back to where you had the tank installed to have them deal with the problem. I’m guessing that’s what you’re doing with the appointment you mentioned.
Keep us posted.[/quote]
Eric, I’ve been a fan since video #1 when you were in that small shop. Many thanks, big fan.
And yes, its an 2000 accord is the car I have. The jeep video is an example of the problem.
The car had a brand new tank and filler neck installed. The jeep video is the issue I now have with the accord. Agreed that you can’t buy filler necks without vent tubes.The shop had it today and they took the filler neck apart, blew air through it, made sure it was working properly. They checked that the caps were removed from the vent tubes too. We all understand the flap is there in the filler neck for rollovers.
So my question to you is; Does a 2000 accord has tank have a “float ball” like the Jeeps do in the gas tank neck area?
(picture = Jeep ball float for gas tank) OR how does a 2000 accord prevent “blow by” of gas as seen in the video?The only issue we could figure out is that the new tank has a stuck ball (assuming it has one). The shop and myself were confused on this topic. He claimed that the old tank had one, but doesn’t remember seeing it in the new tank and they are going to call their supplier tomorrow. So I got the car back with nothing fixed. He said if they need to they’ll drop the tank again.
It’s not in the neck, it’s in the tank. It’s called a roll over valve. It is the most common cause of problems of this type in my experience. It may be an issue with the new tank. There’re a lot of crap aftermarket parts out there. Especially for Hondas.
[quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=88910]It’s not in the neck, it’s in the tank. It’s called a roll over valve. It is the most common cause of problems of this type in my experience. It may be an issue with the new tank. There’re a lot of crap aftermarket parts out there. Especially for Hondas.[/quote]
Agreed. So they either cheaped out and bought a tank with no ball (which probably don’t exist as its a safety issue), or the ball in the new tank is faulty. I’ll make them rip the tank down again and verify this as I’m getting sick of gas coming out each time I fill the car.
Eric, you are the only one in 3 days of searching and asking who had an answer to this. Thank You & Stay dirty man!
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