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    EndSupremacyEndSupremacy
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      My fathers

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      MattMatt
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        Did you do a timing belt on the engine? Is that why you mentioned turning the crank two turns? If so, go back over your work. Make sure every connecter and what-not is plugged back in and where it’s supposed to be. I won’t tell your uncle 🙂

        #436780
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          Quoted From Beefy:

          Did you do a timing belt on the engine? Is that why you mentioned turning the crank two turns? If so, go back over your work. Make sure every connecter and what-not is plugged back in and where it’s supposed to be. I won’t tell your uncle 🙂

          No, I didn’t do the timing belt. The reason why I mentioned turning the crank by hand is b/c Eric pointed out in his video that if you can’t turn the enginge by hand, then that means the engine is seized. If the engine is seized, that means you can’t crank it. Hence the no crank, no start. I wish it was a simple problem, but I don’t know. Anyway, tomorrow I’m going to head down to my dads place and check on the engine blocks’ ground. If the engine block has poor ground, that might be the problem. That’s the only thing left I could think of checking. After that, I’m stumped. I could still use everyones help if you can think of anything.

          #436781
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            Quoted From 619DioFan:

            With the symptoms you describe I would check for a short in the ignition switch circuit.

            I’ll check that out. I don’t want to assume my uncle did it. He used to be so reliable. I guess now that he’s getting older he just forgets things or is just too lazy to be thorough. I hate saying it, but I think he should just retire. Anyway, I’ll let you know how it works out.

            #436782
            MattMatt
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              Okay, can I get a rundown of EVERY thing you guys checked when the no-crank/no-start occurred then? And when did it happen? Was the van sitting for awhile and suddenly wouldn’t crank? Did it just happen out of the blue? The more info, the more we can help bro.

              #436783
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                Quoted From Beefy:

                Okay, can I get a rundown of EVERY thing you guys checked when the no-crank/no-start occurred then? And when did it happen? Was the van sitting for awhile and suddenly wouldn’t crank? Did it just happen out of the blue? The more info, the more we can help bro.

                Ok, my father called me and said that his car isn’t starting. So I asked him what happened. He said that he drove to the store and was in there only 10 mins. When he came out, his car wasn’t starting.I know, weird. Anyway, we checked the starter, fuses, relays, neutral safety switch, battery, and I think my uncle checked the ignition switch, but I’m not sure. We turned the engine over by hand without a problem. The starter reaches the flywheel. Oh, and the neutral safety switch had some bad wires, so we bought a new switch and replaced the old one.

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                619DioFan619DioFan
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                  With the symptoms you describe I would check for a short in the ignition switch circuit.

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                  EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                    Probably the easiest thing you can do is check to see if you have the 12V signal getting to the solenoid wire during the ‘no start’ condition, if you’re not getting power here I would be looking at the ignition switch based on what you described with the dash lights, if you do have 12V there when you turn the key the the problem is likely to be with the starter itself, this video might help you.
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKjdnQ0s … ure=relmfu

                    #436785
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                      Ok guys. Sorry for not updating you sooner, but we got the car working. The problem was the alternator. I thought that was weird, but my guess is that the old one that we replaced was not grounding properly. I really don’t see any other reason why the alternator would be the cause. Anyway, thanks a lot guys.

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                      college mancollege man
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                        Thanks for the fix and the updateC8-)

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                        EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                          That is a strange fix if I’m honest. The alternator grounds to it’s mounts where it fastens to the engine, perhaps there was an internal short or something OR disconnecting the battery itself allowed whatever control unit that may have been faulty to reset, that’s my best guess anyway.

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