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October 10, 2012 at 9:45 am #467956
I am going to replace my O rings and valve gasket and all that and i’m also going to replace my spark plugs and wires themselves, and i had 2 questions about that, do the wires come with the plugs? And how do i know what spark plugs to get (if it even matters), and also where i would get my new o rings/ valve gasket/plugs/wires?
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October 11, 2012 at 1:02 am #468035
here is a video to help you. get the parts from Honda.
the wires and plugs auto part store. use NGK plugs and NGK
wires.If the wires are the original OE Honda wires.don’t change
them.just do the plugs.October 11, 2012 at 1:25 am #468044[quote=”college man” post=33382]here is a video to help you. get the parts from Honda.
the wires and plugs auto part store. use NGK plugs and NGK
wires.If the wires are the original OE Honda wires.don’t change
them.just do the plugs.DON’T change out the lower spark plug tube seals yet until you have changed out the upper one’s first. Do that and the valve cover gasket before you even think about switching those lower one’s out (as the video tells you to). I also spoke to someone who worked on Honda’s and he said that very RARELY do the lower tube seals leak oil into the spark tubes, its usually the UPPER one’s that leak. Even in the video that’s posted above, Eric could not find that the gaskets were in bad condition and said himself that he was skeptical that they were what was causing the leak. Which proves my point: The lower one’s rarely leak but its the upper one’s that like to leak.
Knowledge is good, but if it is given without discernment it can prove disastrous. I advise the person who made this thread not to change the rocker arm tube seals unless he absolutely knew that it was his problem.
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When you change the upper tube seals and VC gasket, make sure you clean all the mating surfaces off with brake cleaner and torque down the valve cover to the proper spec. DO NOT torque it too much or you will break the studs off and have to order a special part from Honda.
October 11, 2012 at 1:50 am #468060[quote=”college man” post=33382]here is a video to help you. [b]get the parts from Honda.
the wires and plugs auto part store. use NGK plugs and NGK
wires.If the wires are the original OE Honda wires.don’t change
them.just do the plugs.[/b][/quote]
He’s doesn’t have to go to the dealer to get the gasket kit. Go to any local auto parts store (Advance Auto Parts) and ask them for what it called a VALVE COVER GASKET KIT. It should be made by Fel Pro and is about 20$. It comes with everything you need and even more: the upper spark tube seals, the valve cover gasket, the 4 grommets for the valve cover, and even the lower spark plug tube seals (which you probably do not need to replace).
Here is what you need:
Valve Cover Gasket Set by Felpro (part#VS 50365 R) / Engine Gaskets
Yes, get NGK plugs (you should if its a Honda). But you don’t necessarily have to replace the wires too. Eric himself said that the factory Honda wires almost never need to be replaced. While you are at it you should change the cap and rotor (if need be).
Ask you auto parts store cashier about getting these parts, they will give you everything you need according to your make and model.
I hope this helps you, I know how it is to be a complete newbie at engine stuff. Over the past 2 years I have learned a lot working on my Honda. Knowledge comes from experience, and that experience is acquired when you work on your car. Do not be afraid to work on your Honda, its not as difficult as you think. Its actually very simple if you have the proper instructions.
October 11, 2012 at 2:05 am #468077[quote=”ohemgeeman” post=33342]I am going to replace my O rings and valve gasket and all that and i’m also going to replace my spark plugs and wires themselves, and i had 2 questions about that, do the wires come with the plugs? And how do i know what spark plugs to get (if it even matters), and also where i would get my new o rings/ valve gasket/plugs/wires?[/quote]
Someone already answered your question. And btw i’m working on a 91′ accord, yours is a 97′, mine is slightly different.
Here is the instructions:
Im replacing my valve cover gasket on my 97 accord and Read more: Im replacing my valve cover gasket on my 97 accord and … – JustAnswer http://www
October 11, 2012 at 2:49 am #468114I don’t recommend the FelPro kits, they just don’t fit well. I actually recommend you get the parts from the dealer, they fit the best and last the longest in my experience. As for plugs NGK or Nippon Denso only. I believe the part numbers are listed on the under hood sticker.
October 11, 2012 at 3:07 am #468120[quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=33422]I don’t recommend the FelPro kits, they just don’t fit well. I actually recommend you get the parts from the dealer, they fit the best and last the longest in my experience. As for plugs NGK or Nippon Denso only. I believe the part numbers are listed on the under hood sticker.[/quote]
I would go to the dealer too but its just the shipping time and shipping charges is what keeps me away. You gotta pay about 12$ for S & H charges at the dealer, and it takes about 3-5 business days to ship it. Advance Auto will have the part in stock or they will ship it which usually takes them 1 day or less. Also also the Fel Pro kit is actually really good IMO. The VC gasket I have is really nice blue color and has this “Permadry” technology in it.
Fel Pro says,
“Federal-Mogul’s Fel-Pro® brand PermaDry® valve cover gaskets made of premium molded rubber are designed for engines that were originally equipped with molded-rubber gaskets.
The rubber deforms to provide even clamping along the entire valve cover, while grommets and other design features prevent overtightening.”
October 11, 2012 at 4:05 am #468163Ok so for the plugs themselves i should get NGK or the other brand, what about wires?
October 11, 2012 at 6:20 am #468191[quote=”ohemgeeman” post=33430]Ok so for the plugs themselves i should get NGK or the other brand, what about wires?[/quote]
You shouldn’t need to replace the wires unless you wanted to get some performance ones or something like that. With the one’s you have now, check inside the boots for oil and if they have oil in them spray them with brake cleaner to clean it. They should be perfectly fine.
October 11, 2012 at 6:04 pm #468284I would check for voltage leaks from the ignition wires with water to see if there still in useable shape as well as ohm’ing them out.
Brake clean may be a little too aggressive of the rubber insulation.
Each to there own though.
October 13, 2012 at 3:08 am #468613Don’t replace the wires if they are OE. If they aren’t and you want a less expensive alternative then try the NGK brand.
October 13, 2012 at 3:20 am #468619[quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=33669]Don’t replace the wires if they are OE. If they aren’t and you want a less expensive alternative then try the NGK brand.[/quote]
One, what is OE? Sorry if its a dumb question but, my far left wire i guess is worn, it wont snap in at ALL, no matter how much twisting turning or pushing i do.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZwt_QMaCS0[/video]October 13, 2012 at 4:27 am #468653OE stands for original equipment.thats what came with the car originally.;)
October 16, 2012 at 1:55 am #469190The wire is damaged and needs to be replaced and the oil leak fixed in order for you to install the wire fully. OE is Original Equipment or ‘factory’. Honda’s are very picky about the parts you put onto them and if you don’t use the right parts you will have problems.
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