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Hello all..i have a 1997 accord se 2.2 f22b2..i just bought the car from a friend that bought it new..he had someone change the timing belt and now it has no power..i just took it apart and its in time..I’ve changed three tb on these model engines. So i took off the distributor cap and noticed its pointint to # 4 i think..if #1cylinder is near left fender and if #1 on the distributor cap is next to the A with the circle anround it has to be 180 off..the rotor is pointed in the 10 o’clock position but should it be 4 o’clock according to cap? Would it run 180 off? Also when running the exhaust coming out the pipe is high in volume and erratic..bent vavle..he also put autozone cap that has a crack a cheap wires…helphelphelp
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Here’s a crazy idea. Did you (or someone else) replace the distributor rotor during or after the timing belt maintenance?
Perhaps a B1 rotor, instead of a B2 rotor, was installed. I don’t know if the B1 and B2 rotors are interchangeable, but if they are, maybe the B1 rotor is designed to be clocked to the distributor shaft 180 degrees out from your proper B2 rotor.
I just purchased the vehicle..the guy had his buddy do the tb on his garage..he destroyed the crankshaft pulley..put cheap wires on it..i dont know about the rotor..excellent point through..i have a new one ordered..am i correct to say that if my pulley notches are lined up with the pointer on lower tb cover and and the cam sprocket UP is pointing up im at #1 on compression stroke?.
I bet your correct..he did a mild tuneup the guy said..autozone wires and it does have new plugs..i bet he bought the wrong rotor..it has a Tec cap so its original but the inside contact points are chewed up with like metal dust all around the prongs…thanks..the disturber is in correctly..flush..do you think my engine timing is correct with what i stated above..i bet your right…If the engine timing was off and if i was on the exhaust stroke, am i correct to say the cam sprocket would be facing down?..
I put a screwdriver in #1 cylinder..the one next to left fender and turned engine counterclockwise until tdc notch in pulley lined up with pointer on lower tb cover..the Up was pointed down to i rotated crank 360 counterclockwise and watched screwdriver reach its highest point..cam notches are parallel with head and sprocket Up is facing up..am i correct this is compression tdc?
As I mentioned in my previous reply, the #1 is on compression stroke if the valve rockers have no tension on them. The intake and exhaust valves are always closed on compression stroke. On exhaust stroke, the intake valves are closed and the exhaust valves are open. If you have tension on any of the rockers, you are not on compression stroke.
Once you are on compression stroke, and the marks are all lined up correctly, then the distributor should point to the #1 tower, provided that the distributor is installed correctly (and as Evil-i pointed out that the correct rotor is installed).
One more comment: it is always advised to use Honda OEM ignition parts. There are a bazillion stories of failures and issues with aftermarket parts.
Thanks all.im stumped..eyes are tired of trying to solve this…ive changed numerous tb and this one has me stummed…crank aligned with pointer and cam in The up position..thats tdc on compression stroke..if i was to turn crank 360 and cam turn 180 the rotor would be pointing toward f22b2 #1. Torward front fender not toward the rear bumper…im lost and ? its like i have tge firing order of a vtec..
Its like it has a camshaft from a f22a1 engine..or the cam sproket is upside down if possible…i checked the tension on the rockers and #1 is tensioned but #4 is slack..#4 is on compression stroke but cam sprocket UP is pointing up..backwarks
..distributor is flush with head. Rotor is on correctly .rotor points to #4 on its compression stroke…you guys might think im crazy but PLEASE ANSWER THIS..IF THE POINTER ON CRANK LINES UP THE NOTCH ON PULLY AND THE UP ON CAMSHAFT IS POINTING UP WITH NOTCHES PARALLEL WITH HEAD…IS THAT NOT TDC ON THE COMPRESSION STROKE????thanks everypneI’m getting a bit lost with what is happening when.
Like cap269 said, when your crank and cam timing marks are in their correct alignments, the intake and exhaust rocker arms for #1 cylinder will be loose. You should be able to wiggle them up and down a bit, (assuming your valve clearances are correct). If they are tight, your cam timing is off. It’s possible that the cam was timed 180 degrees off when the timing belt was replaced. Is it possible that the cam timing gear can be installed 180 degrees off? Doesn’t seem likely, but who knows?
I can’t see how the engine would run at all if any of those errors were made, but diagnostics can get weird at times.
Thanks all..i checked tension i the rockers..#1 are tight and #4 are loose..weird..its like #4 is number #1 on this engine …cam cant be off 180 because UP would be facing down.. Thanks
With your cam gear lined up for TDC on #1 cylinder, have a look at the rocker arms where they ride on the cam. The valve rockers for #1 cylinder should be on the “base circle” of the cam, (the perfectly round part of the cam, opposite the cam nose), and not on the cam flanks or nose. If possible, a close-up picture might be helpful.
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