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:sick: Greetings fellow car buffs. My issue is with my work van. It now no longer will start. The van has been running fine for thousands of miles with great performance for a 4 cylinder automatic.
This weekend we filled it up at the local town pump and drove it to an estate garage sale to shop for goodies. After shopping we were unable to start up the van. It would turn over fine. Suspecting a no fuel condition, I checked the fuel rail is full of fuel and depression of the bleed valve while turning the engine over produced large stream of fuel delivery. GAS everywhere now so it is getting plenty of fuel. With no other tools and all the goodies from the sale we ended up having to tow the van home. Hooked up my OBD II reader to pull any posted codes.
None posted. Checked the relays with the MIL status reports everything ready. I diss-connected the battery and pulled up the individual relays to remount them. Connected the battery to re-test still no start. Pulled the spark plugs found them to be burning nice and light brown with some minor wear so I replaced them with a fresh set it was time for better fuel economy and could not hurt so I did.
Still no start. Can hear the fuel pump and relay upon key rotations on and off. The van has been so dependable on a daily basis. NO smoke, no oil leaks, starts up easily each morning, gets good gas mileage has plenty of power and is a pleasure to drive. Easy to change the oil on. The mileage is low for the age 165,000. Now this out of the blue with no idea as to why. Just drove it and then nothing no start ever since. Weird. Maybe the computer went south? Don’t know.
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UPDATE: F.Y.I. it was the P.C.M. according to the local Plymouth dealership. I ordered the replacement P.C.M. should be in next week so as soon as I get it installed and fire up the little beast I will let everyone know. The dealership charged me a diagnosis fee and re-verified all of my work and findings. It was a 50/50 stab in the dark for me to just order a new P.C.M. or actually have it diagnosis by a professional. Since the car had a factory recall on the air bag and life clock spring which controls the horn relay as well, I decided to spend the bucks and have it done. But what the heck they wanted $750.00 for the P.C.M.! I reclined that and paid them for the diagnosis while signing for the recall work which they make money on anyway. Took about 10 minuets to pull the old dead P.C.M. and $119.00 on EBAY. Can’t wait the little van has been down for over a month now.
For all of you that said it is not the P.C.M. you were all correct. After I had the dealership diagnosis the condition that quoted me $750.00 for a new P.C.M. I declined and ordered one myself. It arrived already programmed for a plug and play install. Well, still have the exact same issue. Cranks but won’t start and no codes. Now what? Can I get a refund on my professional diagnosis? Will the dealership honor a incorrect diagnosis?
banana: Hey everybody the little mini van is now running! We replaced the computer (P.C.M.) as come to find out the first one I got was not correct for my car so they swapped it for another replacement computer and we are alive again. Back on the road again! Thanks to everyone with all the helpful items to check along the way. It has been a long time in trying everything.
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