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    clearancemanclearanceman
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      Wife hit a huge pot hole, enough to bend a rim.

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    • #436001
      college mancollege man
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        heres a video to help you pinpoint your suspension issueC8-)

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scFbb43f … plpp_video

        #436002
        clearancemanclearanceman
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          Quoted From college man:

          heres a video to help you pinpoint your suspension issueC8-)

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scFbb43f … plpp_video

          Do I need a special tool to take the inner tie rod off?

          #436003
          chugheschughes
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            Quoted From clearanceman:

            Do I need a special tool to take the inner tie rod off?

            You probably will, auto parts stores loan them out though.

            http://www.autozone.com/autozone/access … l/_/N-264v

            #436004
            dreamer2355dreamer2355
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              You could also have a helper rotate the steering wheel while you inspect the suspension components.

              Keep us posted.

              #436005
              clearancemanclearanceman
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                Quoted From dreamer2355:

                You could also have a helper rotate the steering wheel while you inspect the suspension components.

                Keep us posted.

                I guess I’ll have to see what the alignment shop says because I had my son wiggle the wheels but I can’t figure out where it is coming from, the inner tie rod ends don’t seem to be broken. I’ll find out tomorrow I guess. I hope the rack isn’t bad, could the slop be in the rack itself?

                #436006
                Bad_dudeBad_dude
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                  You can either rent at the auto parts place or Harbor Freight sells one for under $100.

                  #436007
                  MattMatt
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                    I guess I’m not sure why you had the problem diagnosed, and don’t think it’s the problem. If the pothole damaged the ball joint in the tie-rod, then I would have the tie-rod replaced.

                    #435995
                    Bad_dudeBad_dude
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                      You need to isolate the noise and the play. How are you testing for play on the rod? Tugging on the rod? You have to tug it hard as tugging it lightly won’t move it some times. When you say play in the steering, could be more specific? Was it when you are driving or with the car jack up and tugging and pulling on the rack?

                      #435996
                      clearancemanclearanceman
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                        Quoted From Bad_dude:

                        You need to isolate the noise and the play. How are you testing for play on the rod? Tugging on the rod? You have to tug it hard as tugging it lightly won’t move it some times. When you say play in the steering, could be more specific? Was it when you are driving or with the car jack up and tugging and pulling on the rack?

                        When driving there is sometimes a clunk but the wheel is off center and you can feel the slop. The car was aligned a couple months ago and was great until the pot hole. When the front end is jacked up, I can hold a tire at 9 and 3 and push it in and out and I can feel slop and hear a metallic kind of clunking, clanking noise. Normally if you push 9 and 3 in and out on a tire with the front end off the ground, it moves the whole steering smoothly, in this case, there is slop and a noise.

                        #435997
                        johnzcarzjohnzcarz
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                          Maybe the inner tie-rod?

                          #435998
                          clearancemanclearanceman
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                            Quoted From johnzcarz:

                            Maybe the inner tie-rod?

                            I think it might be. I’ll have to go back to that shop and have them check under the boot or do it myself tonight. Anyone know how to remove the boot clips for the inner tie rods?

                            #435999
                            johnzcarzjohnzcarz
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                              If they are the reusable kind there will be 2 tabs that stick up and you just squeeze them together and slide the boot off. More than likely it’s a band style clamp on the big end which means you just undo it by prying up on the lock (don’t ruin the boot itself) and then use either a new clamp or, if you don’t have the tool, just put 1-2 heavy duty zip wire-ties on there for reassembly. Even worm gear clamps work.

                              #436000
                              clearancemanclearanceman
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                                Quoted From johnzcarz:

                                If they are the reusable kind there will be 2 tabs that stick up and you just squeeze them together and slide the boot off. More than likely it’s a band style clamp on the big end which means you just undo it by prying up on the lock (don’t ruin the boot itself) and then use either a new clamp or, if you don’t have the tool, just put 1-2 heavy duty zip wire-ties on there for reassembly. Even worm gear clamps work.

                                Ok, I’ll check it out tonight and see if that’s ok.

                                #436008
                                EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                                  Hold up, it’s possible it’s not the inner tie rod but rather the PS rack itself, I’ve seen this before in situations like yours where the gears inside the rack assembly are damaged as a result of the collision so unless you see actual play in the inner tie rod don’t replace it. BTW a new PS rack comes with inner tie rod ends so if you replace the inner tie rod and find you still have the problem you just wasted your money on a part that you wouldn’t use.

                                  #436009
                                  Bad_dudeBad_dude
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                                    Is it possible that you don’t have a broken inner rod and just a bent one? I would follow Eric’s advice. You have to check for evidence to warrant a repair.

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