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I just purchased this car for my son a few weeks , it’s a 95 Accord, 4 cylinder, manual transmission and up till a couple days ago it’s been fine. Issue , originally, after sitting for hours/overnight it won’t start. Eventually it did star for him after waiting a few minutes and trying again, now tho it doesn’t seem like it’s going to start at all.
Our temperatures have not been really hot or cold but the issue itself sounded like the main relay. Pulled it out and it looked fine but decided to replace it anyways hoping that was the issue. It wasn’t, he returned it and put the original back in. Right now when you turn the key the dash lights illuminate, turn the key to run and it turns over but doesn’t start. The cel remains on at all times, don’t hear any clicks and can’t hear the fuel pump prime, it’s just silent.
I have read different information about this issue and haven’t come across one exactly like his so figured I would post, asking for help. I am not at all a mechanic but can replace parts etc, just need help figuring where to start and possibly someone has has the same issues.
I watched the available videos on the relay, diagnosing starting issues and several others but hoping the said symptoms can help narrow it down.
Thanks for any replies given.
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Begin by using starting fluid. Spray some into the intake (throttle body). If the engine hits look for fuel related issues. If it does not hit then perhaps ignition issues will be at fault. You can remove a spark plug, reattach the wire and prop the thread of the plug on the metal part of the engine while it is being cranked looking for spark.
[quote=”Jotmon1″ post=148457]Begin by using starting fluid. Spray some into the intake (throttle body). If the engine hits look for fuel related issues. If it does not hit then perhaps ignition issues will be at fault. You can remove a spark plug, reattach the wire and prop the thread of the plug on the metal part of the engine while it is being cranked looking for spark.[/quote]
I will do that tomorrow, thank you for the response.
So today I checked for spark, sprayed some starting fluid in the throttle body and the car sputtered for a second, pulled the plugs and sprayed a bit of gas in then put plugs back in, fired up for a second. Assuming sparks not the issue.
What’s next? Check for power at the fuel pump? Whatever is happening, turn the key on and the check engine light never goes off as it use to do. I read where you turn the key on and you should hear the pump prime, 2 seconds later the cel should go off and you should hear the relay click. All that happens here is turn the key on, lights come on and that’s it. Trying to start it, it turns over but nothing else.
Been still trying to figure out what the issue is. I removed the main relay and resoldered all the contacts, didn’t change anything. Checked all fuses again, they are fine.
Guessing it’s on to the fuel pump? It’s what I originally thought but have heard and read that Honda fuel pumps rarely go bad. I’ll Google around and see how to test it.
OK, great. You have narrowed the numerous things that could be wrong to just lack of fuel. Not out of gas is it? Put some in just for kicks.
No, it has fuel… wish it didn’t lol.
If the picture posted, I checked for power at the pump. The yellow/blue has 12v with the key on, the green/red has 1v with key on and the black/yellow has nothing regardless of key position. Trying to find out what they are supposed to have.Thanks
Eric has a quick tip video regarding the relay under the dash with a cracked solder joint causing no start issues.
That might be worth a check – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viIZ8k60awY
Yeah, I have swapped the relay as well as soldered the original, no change. Reading further, seems I may have just checked voltage at the sending unit..
Did you check the fuel pressure at the engine by depressing the shraeder valve to see if fuel is coming out? I’d do that before messing with the fuel pump.
No, I’ll check that now.
Edit- I don’t see a Schrader valve. Looked along the rail and don’t see one.
Finally got access to the fuel pump, no power getting to the pump. Fuses are good, main relay is good.. Anyone have ideas? Thinking ecu at this point but just guessing.
Glad you checked for power at the fuel pump. Honda fuel pumps rarely have an issue. I’m glad you haven’t replaced it in an effort to cure this problem.
If you know the main relay is good, I’d be looking at the ignition switch. It’s a common problem on that vehicle.
FYI, it’s extremely rare that Honda ECU’s go bad as well. I’d put that at the very bottom of your list of suspects.
More info on no start issues here. BTW, the next time you post about a no start issue, please differentiate if it’s a crank no start, or a no crank no start. Both hare handled differently as you’ll see in this article.
http://www.ericthecarguy.com/faq/solving-automotive-no-start-problems
Please keep us updated on what you find.
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Please keep us updated on what you find.[/quote]
Yes, I have watched your videos several times, thanks for them. Unfortunately I am just not having great luck with this so far. I thought the ignition switch failure would not trip the cel? The light was never on when driving but now it doesn’t go off when turning the key. I tried pulling codes by jumping the service plug as you showed only the light remains on, never flashing. The only thing that flashes is the abs light.
Thanks again for the response.
Before I have up for the evening, I supplied power to the fuel pump directly and tried starting the car, no go. Turned over but would start, should it have or? I assumed it would start.
I checked the ignition switch continuity following this
https://youtu.be/4S0
Everything worked as should, if that eliminates the ignition switch, I really don’t know where to head next in diagnosing.
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