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02 Accord Trans problem

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    ChrisChris
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      Hi Eric
      I have a 2002 Accord with V6 engine. The car has 135,000 miles on it. The transmission was flushed, I believe 3 times at about 40,000 miles between flushes.I think synthetic fluid was used.I just started to experience some shifting problems.The transmission bangs when it shifts from first to second, and sometimes second to third. every once in a while it will slip also when shifting from first to second. Does this sound like it coud be a shift solenoid or sticky valve? I know the first thing I must do is replace the fluid with Honda trans oil.
      Thanks,
      Chris M

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    • #545815
      college mancollege man
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        You can try the Honda fluid flush.but these transmissions
        are known for the problems your having.

        #545860
        Matt BrandsemaMatt Brandsema
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          College Man is right on the money, these transmissions are notorious for breaking. The most common problem with this transmission is that one or more of the springs in the valve body will break and not allow the valve to move properly. It sounds to me like the accumulators are not being filled with fluid prior to the shift and is causing harsh shifts. The accumulators are controlled by valves in the valve body so I would bet my leg that you have an internal transmission problem and the transmission needs to be overhauled or replaced.

          #545887
          BillBill
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            I would have the transmission inspected by a professional before I went any further with it. Most don’t charge for a road test.

            #545953
            CrisCris
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              My brother has the exact same car and his has about 135,000 miles on it. His tranny is going out. You hear a clunk and the D4 light starts flashing. $1000 for a rebuild.

              #545955
              RereonehundredRereonehundred
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                Why does Honda continually have transmission problems?

                Both with automatic and manual.

                Does Honda outsource it’s transmission design and build to low quality organization?

                I just don’t understand why quality eludes Honda is the transmission department!

                #545979
                YY
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                  [quote=”Rereonehundred” post=73466]Why does Honda continually have transmission problems?

                  Both with automatic and manual.

                  Does Honda outsource it’s transmission design and build to low quality organization?

                  I just don’t understand why quality eludes Honda is the transmission department![/quote]

                  What problems do the manual trannys suffer from?

                  #546004
                  RereonehundredRereonehundred
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                    I think in this site and a dedicated Accord site, the 6-speed manual is a balkly shifter in some of the lower gears. I’m pretty sure there was a TSB or even a recall on it.

                    #546305
                    EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                      It’s very common for that transmission to fail. It sounds like that might be the case with yours. Based on my experience I would recommend a quality rebuild rather than trying to repair the one you have. It will save you a lot of headache, trust me. Also, it is true that you should only run Honda fluid in those transmissions or you could have issues.

                      #546307
                      EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                        [quote=”Rereonehundred” post=73466]Why does Honda continually have transmission problems?

                        Both with automatic and manual.

                        Does Honda outsource it’s transmission design and build to low quality organization?

                        I just don’t understand why quality eludes Honda is the transmission department![/quote]

                        Honda’s had great automatic transmissions up until about 99. Back then they used to shift a lot harder too. People complained and Honda redesigned them to shift softer. With automatic transmissions, the harder the shift, they longer they last. The reason for this is because when you make softer shifts you slip the clutches more. More slippage=more wear. Also, on some of the later model transmissions they did away with a traditional cooler inside the radiator and switched to a small ‘pod’ on top of the transmission that they ran coolant through. This was stupid in my opinion and I’m not sure why they did it. Those transmissions had a VERY high failure rate as a result. Heat is also a killer of automatic transmissions. If you can’t get rid of the heat, you smoke the parts and the transmission fails.

                        The manuals have often had problems with 3rd gear. I suspect part of the problem is how Honda engines are set up. Most Honda engines don’t start making any real power until the higher RPM’s. This means that you often rev the crap out of them to get any power out of them. This is fun but sometimes you might miss a gear, 3rd seems to be popular for this problem. That’s not to say that the syncros don’t wear more because of the higher revving. To be honest, this is all pure speculation on my part. Once again however, you need to run Honda fluid even in their manuals for best results and long life. All to often this doesn’t happen and as a result the transmissions fail prematurely.

                        #546339
                        RereonehundredRereonehundred
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                          Just the fact that the Honda transmission is very fussy about it’s fluid is a testimony to weak engineering. A really well engineered transmission should be able to use any reasonable fluid and not fail. Such high specificity for fluid requirements is not a sign of brilliant engineering.

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