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    mirahamiraha
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      Checked the site and didn’t find anything close to this so here I go … I need help identifying a recent problem. Steering is fine w no shimmy or shake, when, out of the blue a shimmy, steering wheel wobble with van vibrating like a flat in the front, and then 5-10 secs into it, back to smooth driving, regardless of acceleration/deceleration. Happens on flat smooth road, under 40 mph. Never experienced at hwy speeds.

      Wife drives it mostly. She says it doesn’t travel over bumps / manhole covers etc as smoothly as it usually does. I can’t notice that difference.

      Wobble occurs occasionally, maybe once or twice a week during in-town driving.

      I did the the ball joint / tie rod test with the wheels elevated and there was no looseness; all seemed tight when trying to move in and out, left and right. Any help is appreciated.

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    • #583933
      college mancollege man
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        Try rotating the tires to see if the problem changes.

        #584011
        EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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          Loose suspension parts don’t normally cause vibrations. Tires are the #1 culprit. Try rotating them to see if the issue changes or goes away as College man suggested. This article may also be useful to you.

          http://www.ericthecarguy.com/faq/determining-the-causes-of-vehicle-vibrations

          Keep us posted.

          #584106
          mirahamiraha
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            Will rotate and post back … thanks College Man … thanks Eric

            #584169
            EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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              Awesome. Keep us posted.

              #597785
              mirahamiraha
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                OK … I did rotate tires and thought this was going to do it … but the wobble returned. I thought for sure it was the tires as they are directional Michelins. But now I don’t know. Could it be the wheel bearing / cv axle? Again, intermittent and most of the time set off by running over a bump in the road. Seems to originate from the pax ft. side. Any help is much appreciated.

                #597883
                EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                  You might want to reread the article I posted for you as it address a possible driveline problem with a vibration like that.

                  #597942
                  mirahamiraha
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                    Thanks big guy … the thing that puzzles me is that the mention that cv axle vibration issues being noticeable at highway speeds … yet, for me, this only occurs during in town speeds. I guess I’ll throw a few parts (CV axle and wheel bearings) since I’ve got 210k on the originals.

                    #598072
                    EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                      It also states that wheel bearings causing vibrations is very unlikely. If you have a low speed vibration (30mph or less), it’s likely a wheel or tire problem. If you have a high speed vibration (45mph and up) it’s likely to be tire balance or a driveline issue. Forget about suspension parts. Rotating assemblies are normally the cause vibrations. I have yet to see a wheel bearing cause a vibration like that. Not to say it can’t, I just think it’s very unlikely. They usually make noise when they go bad.

                      #598086
                      mirahamiraha
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                        Thanks for taking the time E.

                        I did have the transmission rebuilt a year ago. Could that be a possible culprit? It’s working great in every other aspect, showing full fluid level.

                        #598117
                        Lorrin BarthLorrin Barth
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                          I was reading on a Honda Forum and there was a thread on this. It appears it is a common problem. The trouble is the thread I was reading never came to a consensus as to the cause.

                          Maybe check with the dealer for any TSB’s.

                          #598119
                          EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                            [quote=”miraha” post=96285]Thanks for taking the time E.

                            I did have the transmission rebuilt a year ago. Could that be a possible culprit? It’s working great in every other aspect, showing full fluid level.[/quote]

                            Indeed it could be the problem. Be sure you check the fluid level correctly with the engine hot but OFF when you inspect the fluid level. Also, only use Honda transmission fluid in a Honda transmission. Use of other fluids can cause issues. More info here.

                            http://www.ericthecarguy.com/faq/solving-transmission-problems

                            #598135
                            Bennett FleisherBennett Fleisher
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                              I had a long running thread on the odyclub forums regarding my wife’s 2007 Odyssey. What we are experiencing is a bit different from your issue but I will let you know what I went through.

                              I purchased the van with Cooper tires that were in dire need of replacement. I decided to go with Goodyear Comfortreads. These tires are incredibly quiet but after having them installed the van had a shake at 65mph. It is not always there and not always at the same exact speed.

                              Took it to the tire shop and they rebalanced the tires. Each time the problem was exactly the same. Finally took it to the local Honda shop and paid for them to do a diagnostic on it. They told me the shake was due to a bad front engine and side engine mount. I replaced the mounts myself and the problem was exactly the same. So back to the Honda dealer. Paid them a second time to do a diagnostic and they told me it was the passenger side driveshaft. I then proceeded to replace this myself. Problem was still there. Went back to the Honda dealer and complained that I had paid them twice to figure it out but still had the same issue. They told me that the torque converter is most likely the cause. I complained again and another mechanic was asked to look at it. He came back and declared they were defective tires from Goodyear.

                              So back to the tire shop. They replaced all 4 tires (they were really great about this). But still the same problem. I then posted this on the odyclub forums and one of the members suggested a Road Force Balance. So I went back the dealer and paid them $120 for the balance. When I got it back, it was almost perfect. There was still a shake, but it was tolerable and slight. My wife then got a nail in one of the tires so back to the tire place. Under the road hazard warranty they replaced the tire. Now it is back to where it was before the Road Force Balance.

                              So, it is my opinion that these vans are not very tolerant when it comes to tire anomalies. Possibly the difference in the way they are manufactured or maybe it is a combination of things but I have a feeling if I put the factory Michelins on it, it would be fine. Since I posted this in those forums there has been a number of owners who complain of the same thing after replacing tires. I seen complaint from both 2nd and 3rd generation owners. Also, I contacted Honda Customer Service and they were useless. They told me that there were no reports of any systemic problem and that my local dealer would be best at dealing with it.

                              Now your case with the slower speeds could simply be that you have a bad tire, but I thought I would share my experiences with you.

                              One other point, one member said they had a shake and corrected it by using a torque wrench to tighten down the lug nuts instead of using an impact wrench. This certainly did not work for my case.

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