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01 dakota no start

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    socal82socal82
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      01 dakota is turning over but wont start. No check engine light on. Im getting gas cuz I pushed the schnizer valve while trying to turn it on and gas squirted out. While starting to start it dash lights go dim. any ideas???

      01 dakota v8 141,000mi

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      dreamer2355dreamer2355
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        You really need to use a fuel pressure gauge to test for fuel pressure. Just because you had gasoline escape from the schrader valve, that does not mean there is enough pressure in the fuel rail.

        I would first make sure you do not have any anti theft device causing the no start.

        Also, you may want to check out the ASD relay and circuits as they can be somewhat problematic on Chrysler products.

        Did you check for spark using an ignition tester?

        Here is a basic no start video made by Eric covering the basics –

        http://www.youtube.com/user/EricTheCarG … BUYs539cy4

        #434161
        MattMatt
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          You need a fuel pressure tester attached to the schrader valve to messure fuel pressure KOEO, and if that is within spec, check for spark next with a spark tester. See what you’re missing and go from there.

          Basics of fuel pressure testing by Richpin:

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJF5Lli4xq8

          Eric’s vid on no start diagnostics:

          http://www.youtube.com/user/EricTheCarG … BUYs539cy4

          Good luck and keep us posted.

          #434162
          socal82socal82
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            thats what i figure about the fuel pressure. No anti theft just the factory remote. Where and how can I check the ASD relay?? Havent checked for spark yet? I went outside and turned it on and it started drove it around the block and ran fine. Parked it, turned it off and wont start back up.

            #434163
            MattMatt
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              Well, I would watch the above videos and start with basic diagnostics then, and see what you are missing.

              #434164
              Trcustoms719Trcustoms719
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                +1 on the fuel pressure and the ASD relay.
                Your missing spark or fuel, Spray some starting fluid in the intake next time it wont start and see if it will start at all after doing that.

                #434166
                EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                  I agree, please watch the recommended videos and see what’s missing when the vehicle is not starting and go from there. BTW I also recommend checking the actual fuel pressure with a gauge if you find that you have good spark.

                  #434167
                  socal82socal82
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                    no rpms while cranking.

                    #434168
                    socal82socal82
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                      i checked for spark. Didnt see any. This is my fist time messing with fuel injection so sorry for the questions

                      #434169
                      MattMatt
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                        You’re fine man. If you have no spark, you will need to find a wiring diagram and begin from there. I’m still wondering if you might have an anti-theft system, and it just isn’t advertised on the vehicle. I don’t know Chrysler products that well. But wait, I just read… You aren’t getting RPM’s while cranking. Do you have a tach and it’s not showing anything? I don’t know that it would register much, but I would think the tach should bump when you are cranking it. If not, you might have cam and/or crank sensor issues. One or the other failing (whichever provides the pcm with RPM data) will cause a no spark condition. But still, you will need a wiring diagram to start with regardless.

                        #434170
                        socal82socal82
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                          no rpms at all when cranking. anyone point me in the directions of the wiring diagram

                          #434171
                          RickRick
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                            You mentioned dim lights. Check the battery voltage durinng crank. If the voltage is going too low, your computer won’t work.

                            The ASD relay supplies power to the injectors and coils. An intermittant failure of the relay is not uncommon so try swapping it with a new one when the problem is pending.

                            #434172
                            MattMatt
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                              Quoted From Rick:

                              You mentioned dim lights. Check the battery voltage durinng crank. If the voltage is going too low, your computer won’t work.

                              The ASD relay supplies power to the injectors and coils. An intermittant failure of the relay is not uncommon so try swapping it with a new one when the problem is pending.

                              Good call. or +1 as my buddy dreamer likes to say 🙂

                              #434173
                              socal82socal82
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                                silly question where is the asd relay?

                                #434174
                                RickRick
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                                  It’s in the fuse box under the hood.

                                  #434175
                                  socal82socal82
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                                    thank you sir

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